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re: Car dealers have so much backlog, some 2022s are "new"

Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:34 am to
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17242 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:34 am to
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How do you "let" CC debt "go", exactly?


Start by not giving the card issuer any current information about yourself. Then simply cease ALL communication with them.

Creditors will NOT throw good $ after bad unless they absolutely know they can rather easily collect all of it back.

After 7 years all records get destroyed and credit report clears. Some entities destroy records after just 5 due to storage costs. (bank I worked for got some good deals buying older portfolios due to such costs. Think about mortgage docs, stored for 30+ years even electronically adds up)
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10512 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:35 am to
Stock has never been limited. Vehicles now sit in parking garages off the lot so they can keep the appearance of low stock. It’s a scam to keep haggling to a minimum and it worked. Now it’s catching up.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117732 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:35 am to
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love how 80% of the OT has in depth knowledge of their neighbors and friends financial situation.



Fackler, Pandy aka nerd/douche extraordinaire has a rapist’s wit, but scans negative for any intelligible sense of humor males with a proclivity to procreate might relate with.

The neighbors he’s talking about live above him in 2B. Their mail gets dropped in the wrong slot most days and, being the piece of work he is he opens it, reads it, puts it back in the envelope, then slides it under the neighbor’s door after they go to work. The apartment complex manager doesn’t allow people to install Ring doorbells. So, he knows he won’t get caught. In his mind, he’s doing the right thing by making an example out of them here to mediate the deficit we’ve created regarding financial literacy.

It’s good thing he’s with us. He’s held in high regard, most particularly with the soccer board.


Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
2896 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:36 am to
Chevy is pretty much made with parts from Mexico and their vehicles have been shite since the late 2010's. Jeeps are, well Jeeps and total junk. Gimme a Toyota or take the bus.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13917 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:37 am to
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This has always been one of the more perplexing things to me as well.

The stats are the stats.

7 in 10 people are part of a household worth below $500k LINK

8 in 10 people are part of a household with an income below $153k LINK
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31532 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:37 am to
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This is where everyone who is poor on the OT fronts and talks about how their cars are paid off and they’ll drive their 2015 into the ground before buying new.


Ha. I’ll one-up the OT points: 2008 and 1999 vehicles. We do have a 0% interest 2021 kid hauler that somehow we got a good deal on. It looks like it has been through Mad Max ToddlerDome with 50k miles (I actually bought the factory extended warranty for first and only time). The old car/truck will probably outlast it.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3163 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:39 am to
Stellantis was less effected than others during the chip shortage. They were producing vehicles when others were slowing production. They now have more of a glut than the others.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
18088 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:40 am to
Not much American about Chevy anymore. Toyota is more American. But you know that already
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
12123 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:40 am to
Looked at prices of Nissan Frontiers this week. I’ve always been a Nissan fan but I think my next vehicle may be a Colorado instead.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28289 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:41 am to
That's the most I've ever seen you write.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
3920 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:43 am to
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Earlier this year it was that most Americans had no ability to pay a $15,000 emergency.


Recently there was a thread on how the male suicide rate has been spiking particularly among old men.

The conclusion was that it was because of woke-ism constantly attacking them through every outlet. But I think the real reason is debt or a lack of savings. When you're young you can dig yourself out of a financial hole, sacrifice comforts or make lemonade out of lemons. That doesn't work when you're older and some of these older people without a safety net are reading the economic handwriting on the wall.

At some point you realize it's too late to start over - there's no fixing this and things will always get worse. So the choice becomes live under a bridge and eat cat food as your body painfully withers away without medical attention or take the fentanyl way out. Even people with children who would take them in as helpless wards don't want to be that burden. It's sad but we need to do a better job of teaching personal finance and the benefits of retirement planning in school.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117732 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:46 am to
Say baw!

Did you leave the NS?

Last time I talked to you, it was about the hot Mandeville check cop. I thought you said you were gonna find her, or bang her. Either way, after that your account was wiped clean.

I’m about to need a new car. You still around?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423297 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:46 am to
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Why don't they lower the price?

I don't think they can, financially or contractually (via dealership agreements)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423297 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:48 am to
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you are rooting for things to be bad. Weirdo.

Hoping our economy returns to a more rational state to avoid this bubble-based economy we've relied on for at least 30 years, isn't a bad thing.

The current situation is not sustainable. We have over-inflated assets across the board which created a credit crisis just for a normal life. Economies are never supposed to only work in one direction. That's not healthy.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58238 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:49 am to
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Stock has never been limited. V


LOL
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
4072 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:49 am to
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higher interest rates

Our expedition was 3%.
I was highly pissed when wife totalled the tahoe and I shat myself on these new vehicle prices
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28289 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:50 am to
Ford has some good incentives right now.

1.9 for 36.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423297 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:51 am to
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But I think the real reason is debt or a lack of savings.


As Bill Clinton once (maybe) said, it's the economy, stupid.

Same driver for drug addiction/abuse and all sorts of social pathologies.

There is a reason the Rust Belt has gone from the halcyon view of Americana to a meth/fentanyl-filled shithole.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28289 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:51 am to
Yep, was in Scottsdale for a few years, but back now.

Watcha looking at?

Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17242 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:52 am to
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Stock has never been limited. Vehicles now sit in parking garages off the lot so they can keep the appearance of low stock.

Worked a Summer and Fall in college for one of the top 60 Buick dealers in the world (they got special edition vehicles for their efforts as gifts from GM) and they used the tactic back then, around 1984.

Look around the dealership for basic buildings, without signage, and start keeping watch for new vehicles there. May even learn delivery schedule if location is handy.
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