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Car dealers have so much backlog, some 2022s are "new"

Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:17 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:17 am
You can use this LINK to search by make, model, time on lot, etc. and look in your area.

I'm looking 200 miles from 70601 and found some "new" 2022s

2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee

Days on market: 396
Miles: 25
Price: $67,455

2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee

Days on market: 396
Miles: 13
Price: $59,830

2022 Jeep Grand Cherkoee Overland

Days on market: 396
Miles: 8
Price: $59,830


2022 Chevy Silverado

Days on market: 324
Miles: 0
Price: $50,035

2022 Chevy Silverado

Days on market: 275
Miles: 27
Price: $57,495

etc etc

There isn't enough demand for rental cars to have those markets save these dealers.

I watched a video a few days ago about homeowners being forced to refi their 2-3% mortgages to 8%+ mortgages because they couldn't qualify for a HELOC and could not consolidate their debt. This is due to high CC payments and .... car payments. Repos are exploding.

This reminds me of 2007-2008 where the math just doesn't make sense anymore.
This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 8:34 am
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52939 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:19 am to
Really sad how many people around here would rather support the Chinese and drive a soyota over a real American Chevy or Jeep
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25339 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:19 am to
Was reading how the higher interest rates and tighter lending has really hurt all the car companies, but especially Nissan and Stellantis.
This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 8:21 am
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20399 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:20 am to
Should we give more money to Ukraine?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53193 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:20 am to
Weird. There was no stock to buy anything two years ago.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Member since Feb 2006
58327 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:20 am to
This is where everyone who is poor on the OT fronts and talks about how their cars are paid off and they’ll drive their 2015 into the ground before buying new.














Our 2015 4Runner is long paid off and we’re going to drive it into the ground. Who is paying these prices?!
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28129 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:22 am to
At one point the Grand Cherokee had a 500+ day market supply.

Buying a 2 year-old new car is a terrible idea, unless you get a super deal.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48463 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:22 am to
I wonder why they don't sharply cut the prices? At some point just cut your losses and move on.
Posted by TJack
BR
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:23 am to
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 10:01 am
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:24 am to
Sounds like inventories have returned to pre-covid.
Posted by olemc999
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:25 am to
quote:

real American Chevy or Jeep


They could start by not being overpriced garbage.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422231 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:28 am to
quote:

Should we give more money to Ukraine?


Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42458 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:28 am to
It’s not supporting China or Japan it’s the fact that America auto industry screwed themselves
It’s called reliability and American cars have failed that metric
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422231 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:29 am to
quote:

This is where everyone who is poor on the OT fronts and talks about how their cars are paid off and they’ll drive their 2015 into the ground before buying new.

I have a little left on my Genesis that I was going to pay off but when interest rates flipped it doesn't make sense to do it anymore.

I can put that money in a CD and come out ahead.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
422231 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:30 am to
quote:

I wonder why they don't sharply cut the prices?


That's the multi-Trillion dollar question, but not just limited to "new" cars.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73454 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:30 am to
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about homeowners being forced


Being forced?
Posted by Finnish
Member since Nov 2021
423 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:31 am to
quote:

support the Chinese and drive a soyota



Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48463 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:31 am to
quote:

This is where everyone who is poor on the OT fronts and talks about how their cars are paid off and they’ll drive their 2015 into the ground before buying new

We aren't rich by any means, but my wife and I are in the top 20% of household income in the US. I'd never pay 50k+ for a vehicle much less 65k for a damn Jeep Cherokee
Posted by Swagga
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:32 am to
quote:

This is where everyone who is poor on the OT fronts and talks about how their cars are paid off and they’ll drive their 2015 into the ground before buying new.



Not poor. Will drive my 2013 Silverado into the ground. I just don’t like any of the new trucks enough to buy one at the current prices.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64461 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:32 am to
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Should we give more money to Ukraine?


Sadly, that’s our government’s answer to any problem.
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