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re: Can somebody explain Texas liquor laws to me?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:15 pm to PowerTool
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:15 pm to PowerTool
I think the bars at White Oak and Studewood area are technically outside the Heights defined area. At the places inside the Heights I think you "join the club". Or at least that's what I've been told. I've drank all over Texas since about 05 and never knowingly joined a "club"
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:20 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I must have never been to a bar in the Heights, because I am not part of a club and have not been asked that before getting a drink.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:22 pm to GRTiger
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Pretty sure the laws were more restrictive in BR when I lived there.
Not really. The main difference between N.O. and B.R. is the bars have to close at 2 and maybe some open container laws.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:24 pm to Asgard Device
If you think those laws are messed up, you should look into the laws covering sale and distribution by various vendors : brewers, distillers, restaurants, bars, etc. It is a total cluster frick.
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:24 pm to GRTiger
dey aint tryna b finna tell me ion gun drank at dey establishment
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:26 pm to Asgard Device
Beer and Wine for off-premises consumption (retail sale) hours are:
Mon-Fri 7am - Midnight
Sat 7am - 1am
Sun 12Noon - Midnight
Liquor for off-premises consumption (retail sale) hours are:
Mon-Sat 10am - 9pm (except for Christmas Day, Thanksgiving Day and New Year's Day - So plan ahead)
Bars and restaurants can serve mixed drinks for on-premises consumption during hours in which the establishment has a paid license. That's why some cut off earlier than others. The cost of the license goes up to serve from 10pm-midnight...and goes up some more to serve from midnight to 2am. A fully-licensed establishment can operate as follows:
Mon-Sat 7am-2am
Sundays: 12noon-2am UNLESS food is served prior to serving the first alcoholic beverage (in which case you can start at 10am)
Mon-Fri 7am - Midnight
Sat 7am - 1am
Sun 12Noon - Midnight
Liquor for off-premises consumption (retail sale) hours are:
Mon-Sat 10am - 9pm (except for Christmas Day, Thanksgiving Day and New Year's Day - So plan ahead)
Bars and restaurants can serve mixed drinks for on-premises consumption during hours in which the establishment has a paid license. That's why some cut off earlier than others. The cost of the license goes up to serve from 10pm-midnight...and goes up some more to serve from midnight to 2am. A fully-licensed establishment can operate as follows:
Mon-Sat 7am-2am
Sundays: 12noon-2am UNLESS food is served prior to serving the first alcoholic beverage (in which case you can start at 10am)
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:27 pm to Sayre
And bars were closed on Sundays and a few other Sunday rules that may now be gone there.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:37 pm to Asgard Device
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Can somebody explain Texass to me?
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 11:02 pm to Asgard Device
I live in the dry area of the Heights, so let me share some knowledge. The Heights itself is not dry. There is a section between Shepherd and Studewood that is dry thanks to TC Jester and some other assholes. It essentially starts at I10 and goes up to 610.. At that time it was the Heights and it was its own city. Now the Heights is much larger and is part of Houston.
Restaurants in this area offer "drinking clubs" so that they can legally serve you alcohol. It's free of charge and you only need to show your ID. Shade and Downhouse were the first ones to do this.
Like someone already said, Texas fricked up a long time ago by allowing people/cities/etc. to pretty much come up with their own alcohol laws. So that's why it's such a shite show.
Restaurants in this area offer "drinking clubs" so that they can legally serve you alcohol. It's free of charge and you only need to show your ID. Shade and Downhouse were the first ones to do this.
Like someone already said, Texas fricked up a long time ago by allowing people/cities/etc. to pretty much come up with their own alcohol laws. So that's why it's such a shite show.
This post was edited on 2/19/15 at 12:02 am
Posted on 2/18/15 at 11:24 pm to Asgard Device
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Can somebody explain Texas liquor laws to me?
It's like this see... There is and has been a significant percentage of the Texas population who believe that there is an Invisible Man in the sky with infinite power who looks unfavorably on the consumption of alcohol. These people furthermore believe that it is their duty to impose what they feel is the intent of the Invisible Man on everyone, regardless if they believe the same things about the invisible man or not. As such, those who seek elected office in Texas, in an attempt to garner the favor of those who believe in the anti-liquor Invisible Man have been reticent to propose legislation that would repeal antiquated laws that restrict liberty. The majority of these elected officials also claim to be "small government conservatives" as these catch phrases have polled well in political polling in a Texas.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 12:01 am to dpd901
While that's true for the majority of dry counties/cities. The Heights did it because rowdy, run down bars were ruining property values. They made the majority of the Heights dry, while allowing two small sections on White Oak and 11th to be "wet." This helped maintain property values and still gave them local options for booze.
At that time the Heights was its own city. When it was annexed by Houston, it requested to keep the liquor laws in place.
At that time the Heights was its own city. When it was annexed by Houston, it requested to keep the liquor laws in place.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 12:11 am to dpd901
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dpd901
Just out of curiosity, are you a small government conservative? I find that more often than not, people complaining about politicians not being as small government as they claim are actually big government libs. Which poses an interesting irony.
Also, consider the cities with the least restrictive liquor laws. Now consider who runs those cities. Perhaps your sense of politics is warped given the history of certain ideologies.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 12:17 am to TheChosenOne
Texas cities can have dry precincts. These precincts are the same as the voting precincts so voters in that precinct can vote to be dry. This is usually an area that has a lot of loitering and petty crime around liquor stores when those stores were allowed in the precinct. So its really an effort to cut down on crime. In Dallas, there are certain parts of the city that are dry but you can walk across the street to a liquor store that is in another precinct that is "wet". Also, many cities have zoning laws that restrict how late bars in a particular area can stay open. Lower Greenville in Dallas is like this now as there were a lot of bars a few years ago where gang bangers would hang out til 2 am and then go shoot each other in the parking lot which would spill over into the surrounding neighborhood....which is a fairly well to do area. So to clean this up, the city created a special zone where bars have to get a special use permit that has to be renewed every year. Part of that SUP is a restriction on how late the bar can stay open. There are 2 or 3 bars on lower greenville that can stay open until 2 am because they hired a lawyer to handle their SUP and have no history of "trouble" emanating from their bars. Again, its kind of stupid because you can walk a block over in either direction and drink until 2 am. But it has cut down on the violence that happened in the past. All in all, its not a big deal. as for liquor stores closing at 9pm, I was never so desperate for liquor that late, even when I lived in BR...so it doesnt bother me. All the convenience stores sell beer until 2 am........ if they aren't in a special precinct.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 12:58 am to Asgard Device
Bars can stay open until 2 but if you order a drink at 1:55 they will take it away at 2 exactly...they allow you no grace period time to drink it like in most states.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 1:16 am to Flame Salamander
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Bars can stay open until 2 but if you order a drink at 1:55 they will take it away at 2 exactly...they allow you no grace period time to drink it like in most states.
That is absolutely not true, and if you had that done, the bartender and barback wanted to close early, but they impinged on the law.
IF you order a drink at 1:59, you are allowed to finish it by 2:15.
Cutoff for sale of alcoholic beverages in bars: 2 a.m.
Cutoff for CONSUMPTION (big difference) of alcoholic beverages in bars: 2:15 a.m.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 1:20 am to Asgard Device
As someone who is used to buying liquor from every Circle K in town, this shite is weird.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 4:13 am
Posted on 2/19/15 at 2:25 am to texashorn
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That is absolutely not true, and if you had that done, the bartender and barback wanted to close early, but they impinged on the law. IF you order a drink at 1:59, you are allowed to finish it by 2:15. Cutoff for sale of alcoholic beverages in bars: 2 a.m. Cutoff for CONSUMPTION (big difference) of alcoholic beverages in bars: 2:15 a.m.
I was new to Texas and had it done by cops working in a bar in Galveston...they took real delight in taking my almost full drink right out of my hands. I later had it explained to me that
they could take it right at 2.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 2:56 am to Flame Salamander
Then the cops didn't know the law. Surprise, surprise.
State statute
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Sec. 105.06. HOURS OF CONSUMPTION.
(b) In a standard hours area, a person commits an offense if he consumes or possesses with intent to consume an alcoholic beverage in a public place at any time on Sunday between 1:15 a. m. and 12 noon or on any other day between 12:15 a. m. and 7 a. m.
(c) In an extended hours area, a person commits an offense if he consumes or possesses with intent to consume an alcoholic beverage in a public place at any time on Sunday between 2:15 a. m. and 12 noon and on any other day between 2:15 a. m. and 7 a. m.
State statute
Posted on 2/19/15 at 5:48 am to Asgard Device
When you actually read drinking laws, it does not sounds like we live in a free country. Moving from LA where I could get any alcohol at any time, to TX has been an eye opener. I love that a grocery store can't sell liquor, but the liquor store attached to it can. What is that stopping? And beer and wine are okay, but liquor is off limits unless you go to another store. They can all get you to the same place, so whats the difference. My favorite is a liquor store I went to in Addison that had two entrances, one for beer and wine and one for liquor. Like they couldn't mix the two. Whats the point?
Lawmakers need to get out of everyone's business. If I want a screwdriver with my breakfast, I should be able to buy vodka at 6 a.m.!
Lawmakers need to get out of everyone's business. If I want a screwdriver with my breakfast, I should be able to buy vodka at 6 a.m.!
Posted on 2/19/15 at 6:44 am to Asgard Device
Texas liquor laws are more in line with the rest of the country than Louisiana's. More lax than a lot of places, too.
Weirdest I ever encountered was in Harrisburg, Pa. Liquor and wine are sold in one store. And you can only buy beer in cases(no problem with that) at beer "warehouses." But as someone else pointed out, PA has exemptions if you sell mostly food so there's the odd sandwich shop or deli where you can go in and buy individual beers.
Weirdest I ever encountered was in Harrisburg, Pa. Liquor and wine are sold in one store. And you can only buy beer in cases(no problem with that) at beer "warehouses." But as someone else pointed out, PA has exemptions if you sell mostly food so there's the odd sandwich shop or deli where you can go in and buy individual beers.
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