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re: Buddy making his fiance sign a prenup that says no children.

Posted on 3/23/14 at 7:23 am to
Posted by pooponsaban
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
13494 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 7:23 am to
This is silly and likely bullshite.

So what happens if he knocks her up?

Why doesn't he get snipped if he is so against having kids?

ETA: He can't just contract away paternal obligations.
This post was edited on 3/23/14 at 7:27 am
Posted by H.M. Murdock
B.A.'s Van
Member since Feb 2013
2113 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 7:32 am to
quote:

ETA: He can't just contract away paternal obligations.


He may be looking to secure his assets when in the future she decides to divorce him. She will pursue his assets in the divorce and his prenup, just like the marriage, is a contract. A contract stating that children where never an option and thereby not grounds for divorce. Just a thought.
Posted by 82fumanchu
Saskatchewan
Member since Jan 2014
1969 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 7:36 am to
More people should be doing this.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101392 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 7:44 am to
quote:

He may be looking to secure his assets when in the future she decides to divorce him. She will pursue his assets in the divorce and his prenup, just like the marriage, is a contract. A contract stating that children where never an option and thereby not grounds for divorce. Just a thought.


I'm not real up on family law, but I honestly don't think you could contract for such a thing in Louisiana. I could be wrong, though. I know Louisisana does not allow courts to recognize claims for wrongful births, and I'd assert this might fall under that.

The question I have, however, is why get married?
Posted by pooponsaban
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
13494 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 7:48 am to
quote:

The question I have, however, is why get married?


Because if they get married he'll love her more and love her forever. Duh.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77395 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 7:49 am to
This guy is a pioneer if you ask me. Sounds like he has laid on the table what he wants and doesnt want legally? Ball is in her court.
Posted by TIGERFANZZ
THE Death Valley
Member since Nov 2007
4057 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 7:50 am to
As much of a dick move as this is on his part, the blame here lies on the woman. If she wants kids, why would she marry someone who absolutely, to the point of actually drawing up a legal document, does not? Why don't these two go out & find compatable matches & not base their marriage on a legal document? Or she could add a clause in the document stating she will agree with his "no kid clause" by adding a fool proof "no doing what causes children" safety net.
Posted by 82fumanchu
Saskatchewan
Member since Jan 2014
1969 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 7:54 am to
quote:

This guy is a pioneer if you ask me. Sounds like he has laid on the table what he wants and doesnt want legally? Ball is in her court.


This! I don't understand why people keep saying this is a dick move. Sensitives gonna sensitive I guess.
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7806 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 7:55 am to
this marriage won't last too long.

what happens if she accidentally gets pregnant? will your buddy demand an abortion?

Posted by Shoulderchoke
Swamps of Lafourche
Member since Aug 2008
7838 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 8:11 am to
quote:


Did I ever tell you that I tried to name my last kid "Maximus", but my wife wouldn't let me?


Probably best because the only Maximus I know is the one off this site and he's a fricking prick
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129003 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 8:14 am to
The blame lies on both of them for thinking the marriage will ever work in the first place when they clearly want two different things.


She should have walked long ago and he should have never had to come up with such a document in the first place if he was dating someone on the same page as him when it comes to the biggest topic of a marriage.

Posted by H.M. Murdock
B.A.'s Van
Member since Feb 2013
2113 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 8:27 am to
quote:

The blame lies on both of them


No, he listed his requirements. She is accepting. She is agreeing to a contract and will likely try to back out. He will likely adhere to said contract.

quote:

She should have walked long ago

She can walk at any point prior to the wedding.

quote:

he should have never had to come up with such a document in the first place if he was dating someone on the same page as him when it comes to the biggest topic of a marriage.


He put his wishes out there and on paper. She can make her choice.

The ball is entirely in her court. This gentlemen simply laid down his terms outright and prior to the contract execution (marriage).

This goes back to that old saying that women expect man to magically change after marriage.
This post was edited on 3/23/14 at 8:29 am
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22506 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 8:36 am to
A pre-nup has absolutely nothing to do with what happens once you're married. Basically he is saying, before the marriage, there will be no children. It's a pre-nup, hence, pre marriage. Anything after the marriage takes place is post-nup. As long as they are married when she gets pregnant, she is not violation the contract.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35749 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 8:41 am to
If any of this is true I fully expect the woman to get pregnant and take her chances in court later if need be. She's getting her lawyer ($$) and she'll get a kid outta him.

A determined woman will get what she wants.
Posted by ShubutaMS
5682 posts
Member since Aug 2013
1434 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 8:43 am to
Your buddy needed a piece of legal paper to force his fiance not to have kids is a silly beta move. Just tell her like a bauce. Don't get a third party to do it for you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422468 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 9:00 am to
i hope that prenup has a severability clause
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
18771 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 9:02 am to
quote:

A real man would break it off and tell her to find a man that wants to be a parent as badly as she does. He would do that cause he loves her and realizes how important children are to her.


That is total shite. He is the one being honest and upfront with her. She is the one with the burden to break it off if she truly wants kids. She obviously has some low self esteem issue or is delusional to agree to stay with him after this.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
18771 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 9:03 am to
Why doesn't your friend get a vasectomy and be done with it? It makes it that much easier than a prenup
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422468 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 9:04 am to
quote:

He may be looking to secure his assets when in the future she decides to divorce him. She will pursue his assets in the divorce and his prenup, just like the marriage, is a contract. A contract stating that children where never an option and thereby not grounds for divorce. Just a thought.

i don't think you need "grounds" for divorces anymore. you certainly don't in Louisiana (i don't know what state this hypo is in). and his assets are at risk if a child is involved, regardless whether he's married or not. child support and marital/community assets are not really teh same thing
Posted by ptra
Member since Nov 2006
1428 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 9:12 am to
The smart thing for the guy to do is get snipped. He would never have to worry about kids. I doubt any judge would absolve the guy from child support based on prenup
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