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re: Buddy making his fiance sign a prenup that says no children.

Posted on 3/23/14 at 2:27 am to
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18564 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 2:27 am to
Not sure. Maybe because I didn't have the exact language of the document? He's anal about that sort of stuff. We've talked about it in the past and he thought prenups were too easy to get around.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36051 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 2:30 am to
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But he knows she really wants children. He is totally ok with making her give up something she wants to marry him.

When you truly love someone....you want them to be happy.

A real man would break it off and tell her to find a man that wants to be a parent as badly as she does. He would do that cause he loves her and realizes how important children are to her.



Yeah... I can see that side of it being a dick by him... that's a tough one though... he may truly love her and want her to be happy...and she may truly love him and want him to be happy as well... In the long run the guy is being about as honest as he can be... it's her choice at this point.
Posted by The People
LSU Alumni
Member since Aug 2008
4209 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 2:34 am to
You're friend sounds like he has not been around enough people similar to him with children.

I had a good run during college and even more so during my mid to late 20's. I accomplished a lot of professional goals, traveled, chased women, and bascially answered to no one. However, all of those good times seem empty when compared to the fulfillment and purpose my daughter brought me after her birth this past Monday.

I laugh at how selfish and ignorant I was over the past decade before her. I can't spend enough time telling my friends that were like me to not waste time like I did.

Had I known how awesome this was I would have done it a long time ago.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18564 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 2:37 am to
quote:

But he knows she really wants children. He is totally ok with making her give up something she wants to marry him.

When you truly love someone....you want them to be happy.

A real man would break it off and tell her to find a man that wants to be a parent as badly as she does. He would do that cause he loves her and realizes how important children are to her


I agree. I was told this in passing when i ate dinner with them the other day and they both seemed comfortable talking about it so there might be other circumstances or something. I don't know and I don't claim to understand the whole story. Ethically I don't really believe in prenups. They're just not my thing. But I am interested in law so I'm curious how it'd play out. That's why I started the topic.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36051 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 2:38 am to
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Had I known how awesome this was I would have done it a long time ago.


although I'm sure most people agree, I think it's important to find the right companion to have a child with before having one... and that has been my struggle.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18564 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 2:45 am to
The dude is prettyselfish. He wouldn't be a great parent. He might change, but I think he would think that children weren't a good investment on his limited time and resources. Hell, I am single and 24 and I already want children so I don't even want to approach that line of thought.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63322 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 2:51 am to
I give their marriage a 0% chance of success. And that's being generous.

But I doubt they even make it to the altar.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36051 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 2:56 am to
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The dude is prettyselfish
Ehh... he could just get married, divorce her when she got pregnant, and not pay child support like tons of other dads. least he's being honest.
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22348 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 3:01 am to
This board gets dumber by the day.

quote:

I've asked a lawyer friend of mine in real life but he refused to comment


I asked my lawyer friend in fake life, and he said the same thing.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18564 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 3:04 am to
I'm not concerned with moral quanderings. I don't wish to judge people in my life. I find that stuff evens itself out, in this life or the next. I'm concerned with the legal ramifications based on what people have told me.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81262 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 4:05 am to
You sound very jealous he is marrying her
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
24471 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 4:08 am to
Max, what's up buddy?
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81262 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 4:12 am to
Not much. Wyd
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
24471 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 4:14 am to
Working.

Did I ever tell you that I tried to name my last kid "Maximus", but my wife wouldn't let me?
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81262 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 5:57 am to
i still plan on naming my first two kids Robert Tyler and Greg Hill.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 6:28 am to
That'll never last
Posted by H.M. Murdock
B.A.'s Van
Member since Feb 2013
2113 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 6:39 am to
quote:

But he knows she really wants children. He is totally ok with making her give up something she wants to marry him.


He is not forcing marriage on her.

quote:

When you truly love someone....you want them to be happy.


Not at the expense of making you truly unhappy.

quote:

A real man would break it off and tell her to find a man that wants to be a parent as badly as she does.


He is happy with status quo. If she wants children she needs to up and leave as she is seeking the change in the number involved in their relationship.

quote:

He would do that cause he loves her and realizes how important children are to her.



He may love her and not want children. He made this clear, its her choice to stay with or not.

How on earth can you believe this is the man's fault? The woman is aware of the fact he does not want children. She has the ability to leave...what is the problem?
Posted by mooseknuckle
Hill country
Member since Aug 2006
4435 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 6:42 am to
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Be a man and just say you don't ever want kids and you will never change your mind and that if she can't accept that to give the ring back.


My ex and I agreed to that as it was my only stipulation about getting married. 5 years later she wants a kid, I get a vasectomy and bam I'm out of the house. Oh yeah she kept the ring by the way. Had I not done all of that, there would be a kid in a really shitty situation.

What's so white trash about that? How many men get tricked into kids they don't want, the kid grows up in a bad spot, everybody is miserable all bc of a selfish woman who lied to get what she wanted.
This post was edited on 3/23/14 at 6:46 am
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48946 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 6:43 am to
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Well than she is the idiot for staying with someone that clearly does NOT want kids when she clearly does.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23064 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 7:15 am to
your buddy is seriously fricked in the head.
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