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re: Brendan Dassey won't be released after all
Posted on 11/18/16 at 1:25 pm to ClientNumber9
Posted on 11/18/16 at 1:25 pm to ClientNumber9
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For your scenario to be plausible, 30-40 people from two different prosecutor's offices, multiple police forces, ballistics experts, forensic examiners and detectives would have all been in a scripted frame effort to set Avery up. Possible, yes
Actually I would have to say impossible. It's funny when these type of "documentaries" (and I use that term loosely) come up and the most illogical people come out of the woodworks.
I have to admit I have not watched this particular show but this reminds me of the hooplah after the first season of Serial. Oh that guy didn't do it because of exhibit A. And then exhibit A was basically something that hinged on "why would a killer do something as stupid as...". Them you see people say "well if he did kill her he would have bleached this or hidden that". The problem is they sit behind their keyboards and think rationally for a few minutes about how they would have corrected an error a murderer did.
Two things: hindsight is 20/20 and in the heat of the moment shite gets overlooked. That's how most people get caught. Then you also have to consider that maybe a murderer isn't in their right mind at the time but that's another discussion.
Then exhibit A is used to basically convict the police and their handling of the case. NONE of which exonerates the accused.
It's a flawed logic. P leads to Q and not Q leads to Not P, but it goes no other way. In fact, logically whether or not the cops did a good job doesn't negate a person of guilt. Only in the legal system can technicalities get a person off and make them "not guilty" but in logic land that doesn't fly.
That's why just because the cops fricked up doesn't mean Avery didn't kill this woman. It doesn't mean Aman didn't kill his ex girlfriend (Serial reference, and because a cop said the N word doesn't mean OJ didn't cut Nicole's throat ear to ear.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 1:52 pm to lsuwontonwrap
Idk about if he should be released or not but when i was reading about it noticed this picture of a sick pair of interchangeable shorts / pants.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 2:02 pm to LesMiles BFF
Very good points here. The general public, as they are in almost everything else, is cataclysmically stupid.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 3:18 pm to ClientNumber9
What about the newsweek article that has Teresa Halbach pinging a cell phone tower 12 miles away from the Avery's junk yard at 2:27pm? Does anyone else find odd that cell phone tower just happens to be a mile away from Denis Vogel's farm?
Posted on 11/18/16 at 5:28 pm to Barf
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What about the newsweek article that has Teresa Halbach pinging a cell phone tower 12 miles away from the Avery's junk yard at 2:27pm?
Cell phone towers are NOTORIOUSLY inaccurate. I'm in law enforcement and during the course of my investigations we run cell phone ping logs and they're pretty badly off. A lot.
Now, I can tell if you're in a particular state or a particular area of that state, so it does have uses. (For example, did my suspect drive the 280 miles from Spokane to Seattle that weekend.) But as far as nailing down precise locations, at least for use in court, forget about it.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 11:00 am to lsuwontonwrap
Ok I'm late to the party. I've heard about this whole thing for a while, finally decided to binge it. I'm on episode 4. My only question, actually concern/fear, is would anybody be surprised if they did plant the evidence? I just read that the DNA/blood is being carbon tested, if it comes out that the sample is too old to have been there...holy shite. This and the West Memphis 3 makes me think crooked redneck cops could frick any of us
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:24 pm to EyeTwentyNole
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Ok I'm late to the party. I've heard about this whole thing for a while, finally decided to binge it. I'm on episode 4.
Did you finish it? What do you think now?
Not much else has happened lately. They say that the appeal could take a year to work out. I did see this article awhile back, where the guy really broke down the judge's decision (LINK /). I thought it was really well done and researched. I especially loved his thoughts on Dassey and his supposed lack of intelligence..
"While this may shock Making a Murderer viewers, Dassey isn’t all that dumb. Although he is presented as a simpleton with an exceptionally low IQ, Duffin admits that “his IQ was assessed as being in the low average to borderline range.” Moreover, Dassey was enrolled in regular education—not special education—classes at school.
In fact, by his own admission at trial, he was intelligent enough and savvy enough to read the novel Kiss the Girls (a very advanced, very densely written, very adult-themed James Patterson novel), remember intricate details of the novel’s plot, and then apply those details to a fantastical story he made up about he and his uncle kidnapping, raping, and then murdering a young photographer.
These are very advanced reading comprehension and creative thinking skills—skills that someone with Dassey’s supposedly “deficient” intellectual abilities simply wouldn’t possess.
Likewise, at trial the supposedly mentally deficient Dassey somehow withstood hour after hour of hostile cross-examination from prosecutors determined to trip him up, to catch him in a lie or contradiction, and use that to attack him.
Dassey didn’t trip up once. He didn’t contradict himself a single time."
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:29 pm to brmark70816
He needs to go to wrestlemania.
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