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re: Boy with Asperger's syndrome hospitalized after brutal school attack
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:24 am to Sir Drinksalot
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:24 am to Sir Drinksalot
it's probably caused by gluten or vaccines
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:27 am to el Gaucho
Idk but it sets them apart from others which makes the other kids weary of them. As they get older the other kids resent the distance that is put between them. It's hard for kids to understand. No fun for anyone.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:31 am to magildachunks
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Was he beat up because of it?
Well since it affects how you interact with other people, one can assume it might have played a part.
I get where you're going, because I also hate needless details to manipulate the reader, but this is actually a detail that is important.
ETA: Didn't see the part about his brother, which is apparently why he was beat up? God I hate news writers. Tell us WTF happened and quit trying to make us use our imagination
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 8:34 am
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:31 am to Boss
Lots of people are unaware. Idk if he is trolling or not but it's important for parents to know about it. If your kid has a problem with another kid, it's good to examine all possibilities.
Also these kids grow up to be weird adults; you might know a few and have dismissed them as assholes.
Also these kids grow up to be weird adults; you might know a few and have dismissed them as assholes.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 8:33 am
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:32 am to magildachunks
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Again: what does Aspergers have to do with this?
Because kid with Aspergers probably unknowingly elevated his danger by his condition dipshit.
My younger stepbrother has Aspergers. He got his arse whooped at school one time and he didn't even understand why. The teacher came back in the classroom and asked the class aloud who was talking while she was in the hallway. He answered her question without hesitation. Snitches get stitches so it goes.
To him, he is programmed as to be matter of fact. The teacher asked a question, he answered. He's socially unaware and awkward.
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and the kid hit him first?
I'm not saying it didn't happen but with my experience, I highly doubt this is the case.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:34 am to Cdawg
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Again: what does Aspergers have to do with this?
Why not? We always have to put up with the color brands used to hype a story with "white" on "black" negative interactions.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:36 am to Sir Drinksalot
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Also these kids grow up to be weird adults; you might know a few and have dismissed them as assholes.
This.
Everyone I've encountered with Asperger's has been insufferable to be around. If you don't spend enough time around them, you might not pick up on the fact that they have it.
I had a class with one guy, and people were so rude to him at the beginning because he was constantly interrupting the professor and always knew the answer to everything. A week in, we all realized he had Asperger's. People were patient for about a week, and then people just starting being firm and reminding him to be quiet when he interrupted too much.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:38 am to mt1
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Well kids with Aspergers are assholes
Overbroad generalization.
Jesus no kidding. Why do people keep parroting this nonsense?
My son was diagnosed when he was 7 (he's 12 now). He's awkward in social situations, says some things that don't quite mesh with what is being discussed and seems to be in another dimension sometimes, but he has never come off as an a-hole to anyone.
When he was 10, we put him in a social group with other kids in the spectrum. While all of them (including my son) were varying degrees of weird, none of them were assholes either.
Just because a kid isn't chatty, or doesn't seem very approachable, it doesn't mean he's being a jerk, or rude.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 8:43 am
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:49 am to ZereauxSum
I didn't read this whole thread but are people really justifying a kid who weighs over 250# beating up a kid who weighs 70# to within a hair of his life?
If you want to add fuel to the fire, the father of the bully has a rap sheet miles long.
If you want to add fuel to the fire, the father of the bully has a rap sheet miles long.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:54 am to ZereauxSum
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Just because a kid isn't chatty, or doesn't seem very approachable, it doesn't mean he's being a jerk, or rude.
I am sure it varies from person to person. Sure, you have the illness, but different people's personalities also play into it.
The handful I've known happened to all possess some rudeness (and they were definitely chatty--overly so). It wasn't on purpose, but it was definitely there. It wasn't like cursing at people or anything like that. It was snobby remarks, strange behavior that offends people, etc. Of course, these have all been adults as well.
A lot of things that adults consider offensive or inappropriate aren't things that kids find wrong. I knew one guy with it who started talking about how "he/his family has money and he isn't poor and doesn't think about whether or not he can afford something" when someone mentioned not being able to afford something they really needed
He didn't realize that was a rude thing to say, but let's be real.. most of us would call someone an a-hole for doing that.Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:55 am to notsince98
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I didn't read this whole thread but are people really justifying a kid who weighs over 250# beating up a kid who weighs 70# to within a hair of his life?
Not that I have noticed. I think everyone agrees it is horrible. The discussion has slightly shifted to Asperger's in general.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:55 am to notsince98
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I didn't read this whole thread but are people really justifying a kid who weighs over 250# beating up a kid who weighs 70# to within a hair of his life?
No one is really "justifying it", but there seems to be a lot of, "that's a shitty thing to do, but Aspys say dumb things sometimes since they tend to be assholes".
I'm really amazed that so many posters believe this. I'm also amazed at how many people easily become clinical psychologists and immediately diagnose Aspergers because some kid was doing "X". Never mind that Aspergers presents in dozens of different ways, I just know he has it!
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:58 am to LouisianaLady
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The handful I've known happened to all possess some rudeness (and they were definitely chatty--overly so). It wasn't on purpose, but it was definitely there. It wasn't like cursing at people or anything like that. It was snobby remarks, strange behavior that offends people, etc. Of course, these have all been adults as well.
How do you know they were Aspys and weren't somewhere else on the spectrum? Or had some other issue that had nothing to do with the spectrum?
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:00 am to ZereauxSum
Eh, I think you're looking at it in the wrong way. Some posters are saying that, but if you're around here often enough, you should know who to ignore.
A couple of the posters discussing it have special needs/autistic children as well.. just FYI in case you weren't aware.
I don't think they're saying it to blanket people or be a dick about it. I think they're saying that many people don't realize when they're interacting with a person who has Asperger's. And if you're not aware that they can't help how they're acting, you might write them off as an a-hole or any other quality they're exhibiting.
I saw the posts as more of an awareness type of thing... "don't jump to beating someone's face in when they're rude or weird because you don't know why they're behaving that way".
A couple of the posters discussing it have special needs/autistic children as well.. just FYI in case you weren't aware.
I don't think they're saying it to blanket people or be a dick about it. I think they're saying that many people don't realize when they're interacting with a person who has Asperger's. And if you're not aware that they can't help how they're acting, you might write them off as an a-hole or any other quality they're exhibiting.
I saw the posts as more of an awareness type of thing... "don't jump to beating someone's face in when they're rude or weird because you don't know why they're behaving that way".
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:02 am to ZereauxSum
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How do you know they were Aspys and weren't somewhere else on the spectrum? Or had some other issue that had nothing to do with the spectrum?
Because the few I've known have no problem telling people what is wrong with them. They're very frank about it. Still.. it has only been 3 people. That is why I said they all "happened to" possess those traits. I'm not dumb enough to think everyone with Asperger's must act that way because 3 people do.
A quick Google search shows
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People may experience:
Behavioral: aggression, persistent repetition of words or actions, repetitive movements, social isolation, self-harm, fidgeting, hyperactivity, screaming, impulsivity, antisocial behavior, or compulsive behavior
Muscular: clumsiness, inability to combine muscle movements, poor coordination, or tic
Mood: anger, apprehension, or loneliness
Psychological: anxiety or depression
Also common: intense interest in a limited number of things, nightmares, stuttering, sensitivity to sound, or learning disabil
Clearly, it can range from being very quiet and to yourself all the way to being what people interpret as a massive a-hole
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 9:05 am
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:04 am to ZereauxSum
a-hole=a lack of reading social situations and reacting with calculation. (To adults, ab adults)
In children it's more innocent bc all kids do that to a certain degree. Normal kids grow up and learn how to react, AS kids don't (to different degrees).
People just notice the more vocal ones. I don't think anyone is saying that everyone with AS is an a-hole. Just that compared to normal standards, they stand out as something different. A little or a lot more unfiltered. (Which most adults see as "a-hole")
And yep, baby drinks has a whole list of issues. I mean no disrespect. It's good for people to be aware of all possibilities.
In children it's more innocent bc all kids do that to a certain degree. Normal kids grow up and learn how to react, AS kids don't (to different degrees).
People just notice the more vocal ones. I don't think anyone is saying that everyone with AS is an a-hole. Just that compared to normal standards, they stand out as something different. A little or a lot more unfiltered. (Which most adults see as "a-hole")
And yep, baby drinks has a whole list of issues. I mean no disrespect. It's good for people to be aware of all possibilities.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 9:11 am
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:19 am to LouisianaLady
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Clearly, it can range from being very quiet and to yourself all the way to being what people interpret as a massive a-hole
Agreed, and maybe I got a little defensive. I'll concede that kids with Aspergers (I don't know any adults who have been diagnosed) get angry, can scream and can be aggressive, but honestly, who doesn't?
I also saw self-isolation, loneliness and sensory sensitivity, which would probably not be the traits of a kid who is lashing out at everyone, so yes, you can get a bunch of different things from a kid with Aspergers.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:22 am to Sir Drinksalot
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a-hole=a lack of reading social situations and reacting with calculation. (To adults, ab adults)
Maybe I just have a different definition of what an a-hole is. I'm thinking of someone who goes out of their way to screw with someone. If I'm an Aspy and I fidgit with my zipper in class all day because of it, I might be annoying as hell and probably need some re-direction, but I don't think that makes me an a-hole.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:26 am to ZereauxSum
Of course not. Read the rest of my last post.
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