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re: Biker Shootout at the Twin Peaks in Waco, TX
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:38 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:38 am to Darth_Vader
State law says they have to release the Public records. Bypassing the law and asking for an opinion on whether they have to obey the law is a stall tactic.
Imagine a few bureaucrats in a conference room, running in circles, sweating, guzzling Pepto Bismol, and trying to figure out what to do. They know they are screwed.
They thought the property grab was going to be a windfall. They thought they were in the clear because the media seemed to buy their stories.
Wait until the mainstream and tabloid media realize their is some sensationalism to be exploited.
Imagine a few bureaucrats in a conference room, running in circles, sweating, guzzling Pepto Bismol, and trying to figure out what to do. They know they are screwed.
They thought the property grab was going to be a windfall. They thought they were in the clear because the media seemed to buy their stories.
Wait until the mainstream and tabloid media realize their is some sensationalism to be exploited.
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:54 am to Hangit
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State law says they have to release the Public records. Bypassing the law and asking for an opinion on whether they have to obey the law is a stall tactic.
Imagine a few bureaucrats in a conference room, running in circles, sweating, guzzling Pepto Bismol, and trying to figure out what to do. They know they are screwed.
They thought the property grab was going to be a windfall. They thought they were in the clear because the media seemed to buy their stories.
Wait until the mainstream and tabloid media realize their is some sensationalism to be exploited.
Yep and after reading the Yahoo News report i linked a page back, I think at long last some of the MSM are starting to finally take notice and sense that there is something very wrong that's happened and continues to happen in Waco, Texas.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:58 am to Hangit
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They thought the property grab was going to be a windfall
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:04 am to Darth_Vader
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So are you finally starting to see why the official cop story being fed to the public is looking more and more like pure bullshite and a huge coverup of a massacre?
Um no...I would have just wiped them all out while they were sitting ducks...
My job is to find the problem, eliminate it, make sure it doesn't happen again...
Sometimes it requires examples
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:07 am to Armymann50
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They thought the property grab was going to be a windfall
There's about $30,000 for the Waco PD just in those two bikes alone.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:09 am to Darth_Vader
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There's about $30,000 for the Waco PD just in those two bikes alone.
I hope they light them on fire in the parking lot
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:10 am to GrammarKnotsi
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Um no...I would have just wiped them all out while they were sitting ducks...
My job is to find the problem, eliminate it, make sure it doesn't happen again...
Sometimes it requires examples
Here's you a couple of new avatars that better fit your personality....
Take whichever you like because both equally fit you.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:12 am to Darth_Vader
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Take whichever you like because both equally fit you.
They took their philosophies a little further than I would
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:17 am to GrammarKnotsi
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They took their philosophies a little further than I would
Sounds to me like you were cut from the same cloth as them. Don't like a group of people? Well just wipe them out and be done with it.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:21 am to Darth_Vader
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Those guys sat in jail from May 16 until May 29. That's one day shy of 2 weeks in jail and even the incident reports says all the cops saw them doing was sitting in the fricking grass. And they're still only out on bail. They still are facing charges of "engaging in organized crime".
I just read the Texas statute and it will be interesting to see how it plays out. I know nothing about the Grim Guardian MC but if they're known to "continuously or regularly" (whatever that means) associate in the commission of criminal activities and if one member of their MC committed even a Class A misdemeanor assault, then I don't know how they avoid conviction, much less argue that their arrests were wrongful, though the initial $1 million bond seems excessive, but I think that was eventually reduced for those 3. I could be wrong.
Darth...have you read that statute? What I'm wondering is...do you think the DA is looking at the entirety of the COCI as the organization, instead of the Bandidos or Cossacks? Since the COCI allows and is made up of what I think most recognize as criminal gangs, are they going to try to argue that the larger and broader COCI is the criminal organization and anyone there as part of it are just as guilty as the one taking a swing or pulling a knife or whatever? I think that's a stretch and can't fly but I'm wondering if that's what they're trying to do. Though, that is just one more reason why they should have never allowed such MC's to be involved with it.
Also curious what you know about the Grim Guardian MC.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:22 am to Darth_Vader
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Don't like a group of people? Well just wipe them out and be done with it.
Group of people causing trouble...Set an example...
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:23 am to Darth_Vader
quote:They are have a hard time feeding all those hungry bikers. Costing them $9,000 a day for room and board.
There's about $30,000 for the Waco PD just in those two bikes alone
This post was edited on 6/4/15 at 11:11 am
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:30 am to Darth_Vader
Not taking a side on this, government agencies request AG permission to reject FOIA requests all the time. That is nothing out of the ordinary... Especially for something pending
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:50 am to reedus23
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I just read the Texas statute and it will be interesting to see how it plays out. I know nothing about the Grim Guardian MC but if they're known to "continuously or regularly" (whatever that means) associate in the commission of criminal activities and if one member of their MC committed even a Class A misdemeanor assault, then I don't know how they avoid conviction, much less argue that their arrests were wrongful, though the initial $1 million bond seems excessive, but I think that was eventually reduced for those 3. I could be wrong.
I don't know a lot about the Grim Guardians MC. They have no presence in my state and I believe they're a small "mom & pop" club that is from Texas only. As for being part of any organized crime, unless they're a "bitch" (support) club for a larger 1%er club, I highly doubt they're involved in anything illegal.
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Darth...have you read that statute? What I'm wondering is...do you think the DA is looking at the entirety of the COCI as the organization, instead of the Bandidos or Cossacks? Since the COCI allows and is made up of what I think most recognize as criminal gangs, are they going to try to argue that the larger and broader COCI is the criminal organization and anyone there as part of it are just as guilty as the one taking a swing or pulling a knife or whatever? I think that's a stretch and can't fly but I'm wondering if that's what they're trying to do. Though, that is just one more reason why they should have never allowed such MC's to be involved with it.
Here's the thing. This fight that broke out in the parking lot was all started by members of the Cossacks when a group of them surrounded and attacked a group of Banditos who were just pulling up and in fact were not even off their bikes yet. And the Cossacks MC is not a member of the COC. Thus, how can the cops in Waco claim the COC is a "criminal organization" when the only owns who were doing anything illegal were not members of that organization nor were they even invited to the event? If anything the members of the Texas COC were victims of a crime.
But sadly, none of that matters to the cops in Waco. They didn't care that it was only a small group in the parking lot who started this. They arrested everyone in the vicinity wearing anything biker related and charged them all with serious felony offenses. And it did not matter to the Waco PD it was only a handful (like 3 I think) of Cossacks that drew firearms and shot at the Banditos they had surrounded. Instead the cops opened fire on everyone in the parking lot, killing 9 and injuring almost 30 indiscriminately.
Bottom line, I believe what happened was a huge mistake. I believe when the couple of Cossacks drew and fired at the Bandidos, there was an trigger-happy overreaction from the police that resulted in a massacre. And everything that's happened since is the Waco PD's attempt to cover up the fact that they royally screwed up and killed and injured a lot of innocent people, not to mention put at risk hundreds more, biker and non-biker equally, when they unleashed a hail of bullets like they were at the OK Corral.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:14 am to Darth_Vader
quote:5.56 will be the perferred weapon when the ME does his report.
overreaction from the police that resulted in a massacre
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:21 am to Armymann50
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when the ME does his report.
Wonder when that will be released to the public?
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:54 am to Darth_Vader
Looks like these bikers would be better of to be illegal aliens....
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Some of those released were the worst of the worst — more than 3,700 “Threat Level 1” criminals, who are deemed the top priority for deportation, were still released out into the community even as they waited for their immigration cases to be heard.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:02 pm to Darth_Vader
Hadn't been keeping up with these cases. Is it true that the whole "We'll reduce bond if you sign this waiver" mantra was just BS?
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:10 pm to reedus23
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Hadn't been keeping up with these cases. Is it true that the whole "We'll reduce bond if you sign this waiver" mantra was just BS?
I'm not sure. The story was, if I remember correctly, that the police were telling inmates they'd get reduced bail if they sign these legal waivers and the county public defender's office was involved as well. From what I've read what is supposedly BS is that the public defenders were involved in the scheme.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:32 pm to Darth_Vader
Yeah, I just read up more on it. Seems the entire thing was BS that sprouted wings on social media and slanted blogs. If it were true, that would be a major issue however.
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