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re: Biker Shootout at the Twin Peaks in Waco, TX

Posted on 6/5/15 at 11:33 am to
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 11:33 am to
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what in the hell are you talking about? War?? What war is going on?



Damn Darth if you would just quit feeding the troll he would lither back under his rock.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 11:34 am to
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The 95% that are known for criminal activity are getting higher bail amounts

SHOCKER


Hey dumbass, how about before spouting ignorance on here you do some checking. Most of the people in jail are not part of any criminal activity nor did they do anything criminal on the day in question.
Posted by BigSECfan
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 11:45 am to
Hey man. I don't have enough REAL information to criticize although I do assure you I question a lot of things in our judicial process. My intent in making the previous post, was that, and as I think I posted on teusday, it's good to see that they are moving forward and reclassifying bonds so that some of those hang arounds can get back to their lives.

I assure you my opinion that what has taken place here is tragic has not changed. Uncalled for entirely. But, we need to move forward and heal up the community, and hope that those families who may be suffering from losing a loved one will also heal.

This ain't about bikers. I could care less about them. At the end of the day they like me and everyone else are just people and we all need to learn to respect the rights of others and the crap that went down is Waco is stupid and people died. Someone must be held accountable to deter others from being involved in this silly childish behavior in a civilian environment ever again.

Let's pray and heal our communities here in America. God bless the family of the fallen Vietnam veteran. Semper Fi bro, RIP.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 11:50 am to
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Hey man. I don't have enough REAL information to criticize although I do assure you I question a lot of things in our judicial process. My intent in making the previous post, was that, and as I think I posted on teusday, it's good to see that they are moving forward and reclassifying bonds so that some of those hang arounds can get back to their lives.

I assure you my opinion that what has taken place here is tragic has not changed. Uncalled for entirely. But, we need to move forward and heal up the community, and hope that those families who may be suffering from losing a loved one will also heal.

This ain't about bikers. I could care less about them. At the end of the day they like me and everyone else are just people and we all need to learn to respect the rights of others and the crap that went down is Waco is stupid and people died. Someone must be held accountable to deter others from being involved in this silly childish behavior in a civilian environment ever again.

Let's pray and heal our communities here in America. God bless the family of the fallen Vietnam veteran. Semper Fi bro, RIP.




I agree with you. As I've said time and again anyone who was responsible for what went down at Twin Peaks that day needs to be prosecuted. But the cops story and what little actual information we can get are at huge odds with one another. And what's worse is there's dozens of innocent people who not only have been sitting in jail for THREE WEEKS now, on top of that they're facing trumped up serious felony charges when there is clear evidence they did nothing wrong.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 11:51 am to
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Hey dumbass



You're the one spouting off opinions as fact.


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Most of the people in jail are not part of any criminal activity nor did they do anything criminal on the day in questi


Proof?


Dumbass

Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 11:53 am to
Where is your proof? They'll get their day in court.



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trumped up serious felony charges when there is clear evidence they did nothing wrong.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:01 pm to
Go read the AP article where they report there are NINE different camera angles from inside Twin Peaks showing that nobody was fighting or shooting anyone. Everyone inside was taking cover from the gunfire outside, which from other reports was by in large the hundreds of rounds being fired towards Twin Peaks by the cops thrmselves. Yet the fricking cops arrested every single biker who was inside Twin Peaks. There's your fricking proof.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/6/15 at 10:17 am to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/6/15 at 10:27 am to
Why do the regular law biding motor cycle gang members attend events where the criminal element is known to be present?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/6/15 at 10:35 am to
It's a political organization meeting open to all bikers and has nothing to do with whatever any club does away from that organization on it's own time. You've had that explained to you at least four or five times now in this thread.
Posted by Agforlife
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/6/15 at 10:38 am to
hmmmmm
This post was edited on 6/6/15 at 10:39 am
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140684 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 10:45 am to
Yes. But you didn't answer my question.

I didn't ask what type of meeting it was. You did explain that it was "political".

I want to know why law abiding gang members would go near those that are know to have criminal tendencies. Pretty straight forward.

Ignore the criminals...avoid the criminal gangs...seems easy.

Just don't associate with them at all.

Politics...lol
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 10:56 am to
quote:

roadGator
Yes. But you didn't answer my question.

I didn't ask what type of meeting it was. You did explain that it was "political".

I want to know why law abiding gang members would go near those that are know to have criminal tendencies. Pretty straight forward.

Ignore the criminals...avoid the criminal gangs...seems easy.

Just don't associate with them at all.

Politics...lol





Ok smart guy please explain how in a free country where a meeting is being held in a public place are you supposed to tell them they can't come, oh and BTW the Cossacks were not invited, but they were there.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140684 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 11:24 am to
Please quote me regarding telling anyone that they couldn't come.

I'm saying don't attend meetings where outlaw gangs are present.

Is that too simple? Sometimes the most simple things are the most challenging.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 11:33 am to
Yeah you say that "just don't attend" the problem with that is if you don't attend then your voice in matters that affect your hobby, passion or whatever riding means to you is not heard. Is there a criminal element in the biker community, yes but that shouldn't stop anyone from voicing their opinion on political policies that effct them. Too, there are criminal elements in all areas of our society and you probably interact with a few everyday, just sayin.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Member since Jan 2012
55423 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 11:36 am to
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BTW the Cossacks were not invited, but they were there.



They were invited, just told not to show up unless they wanted trouble
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140684 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 11:39 am to
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you probably interact with a few everyday, just sayin.


Not knowingly, if I even do. See the difference?

Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55423 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 11:41 am to
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Yeah you say that "just don't attend" the problem with that is if you don't attend then your voice in matters that affect your hobby, passion or whatever riding means to you is not heard.


Your confusing CoC with TMRA and AMA, they actually fight for motorcyclists rights and regulations.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 11:54 am to
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Your confusing CoC with TMRA and AMA, they actually fight for motorcyclists rights and regulations.




Nope there are reps from those organizations as well as ABATE at most COC meetings.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 11:57 am to
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They were invited, just told not to show up unless they wanted trouble




No they weren't invited, that much I have been told by a Cossack
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