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re: Bike lane controversy on Glenmore Ave in BR
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:12 am to Tiger Ryno
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:12 am to Tiger Ryno
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How would drivers like it if a dump truck was allowed to park on the right lane of a 2 lane busy street blocking traffic and making people in cars swerve around into oncoming lane to proceed through?
They would be aggravated, honk their horns, maybe extend a finger, then go on about their life like normal people. I'm pretty sure the cops wouldn't be called.
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Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:12 am to Salmon
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may not be a big deal on this street, but busier streets, it most certainly would be an issue
That's the point. Pick your battles. It's not a busy street and occasionally service vehicles will park on the bike lane. Steer around them and move on.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 11:14 am
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:13 am to MSMHater
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They would be aggravated, honk their horns, maybe extend a finger, then go on about their life like normal people. I'm pretty sure the cops wouldn't be called.
And if it was everyday?
Better believe they would call the cops.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:14 am to magildachunks
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Honestly, the residents seem to be coming off as the bigger assholes.
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Martin said the properties have long driveways and suggested wealthy people in the neighborhoods were just uncomfortable with having “the help,” such as maids and construction workers, park vehicles on their property.
“If the lawn man shows up, instead of pulling into their capacious driveways, which are two cars wide, and go all the way back to the end of the lot, they want them to park in the road,” Martin said.
Definitely
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:16 am to goofball
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Pick your battles
same people probably call the police on busier streets as well
the Glenmore residents are probably just first to fight back
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:19 am to MSMHater
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Martin said the properties have long driveways and suggested wealthy people in the neighborhoods were just uncomfortable with having “the help,” such as maids and construction workers, park vehicles on their property.
“If the lawn man shows up, instead of pulling into their capacious driveways, which are two cars wide, and go all the way back to the end of the lot, they want them to park in the road,” Martin said.
Yeah, that was weeny thing to say....but these are cyclists we are dealing with here.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:20 am to goofball
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Yeah, that was weeny thing to say....but these are cyclists we are dealing with here.
But no worse than the countastic shite that Dupree woman was saying.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:24 am to Tiger Ryno
Lawn crews park on my street all the time. I steer around them.
Putting flyers on their windows and calling the police never crosses my mind.
Putting flyers on their windows and calling the police never crosses my mind.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:24 am to hawkster
I rode my bike along Glenmore my entire life and was fine. Grew up on that street. When I grew up, I parked along the road, along with other members of my family. We don't have a house with a five car driveway, so we parked how where every other car in America would have, in front of our house.
Homeowners were told the bike lane would in no way ever restrict their right to park. That is the only reason why there is a bike lane in the first place.
Homeowners were told the bike lane would in no way ever restrict their right to park. That is the only reason why there is a bike lane in the first place.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:25 am to Golfer
i just went back and looked at my file on the traffic calming measures. On 8/7/2007 i downloaded a pdf of the proposed Glenmore changes that shows, working from the median out, 10' traffic lanes, a 4' unnamed lane with a speed hump sign at the end of each speed hump, then a 5' lane against the curb, clearly marked with a bicycle. it also has a zoomed panel for each speed hump, showing the detail, including the bicycle marking on the outside lane. i don't think this was the final version, but bike lanes were damn sure always a part of the plan.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:29 am to Emmitt Fitzhume
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This is why, as a cyclist, I only ride at 5:30 in the morning, except weekends when I head out on some country roads. Can't tell you how many times I have almost been hit by some numb nut who has to text or check his FB page instead of paying attention to the road. But at that time of the morning, there is less idiots on the road.
This is why I wouldn't even consider biking on the road at any time in this era.
Drivers are exponentially more distracted than they were 20 years ago.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:30 am to MintBerry Crunch
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Homeowners were told the bike lane would in no way ever restrict their right to park. That is the only reason why there is a bike lane in the first place.
No?
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:30 am to piratedude
one of the funniest parts of all this is it's cyclist that scream "share the road" but here they are not wanting to share. a dedicated lane that nothing but a bike can be allowed in is the opposite of sharing the road
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:32 am to gmrkr5
or what is funnier is idiots screaming "get out of the road", then cyclist get out of the road, and then people park their cars in the bike lane so bikes have to get back in the road
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:33 am to gmrkr5
I mean i'd rather have a bike lane, but if there isn't one, then yeah, share the road
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:33 am to goofball
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Hey look, another cyclist that accepts the responsibilities of a pedestrian but demands the privileges of an insured, licensed, and tax-generating motorist
??? I think you need to read the thread more in detail to realize that your taxes directly associated with you driving your vehicle aren't paying as much for the road as you think. Cyclist are paying taxes too (income tax, sales tax, property tax) that are going to those road as well. Actually at a greater rate than your fuel taxes/registration fees. So take that argument and shove it.
I never said once that a cyclist accepts the responsibility of a pedestrian while demanding privileges. I did point out that they have no need to demand what they already have. I purposefully did not argue the point of enforcement of laws. A cop should pull over a cyclist if he breaks the law. But as I've said many times, they aren't breaking many more laws than cars do everyday (stop signs, turning when they don't have right of way, coming up on the shoulder to make a right turn around another car). So again take your argument and shove it.
We have this idea that you must be licensed to use the road. That's not the case. You have to be licensed to use a motor vehicle on the road. My point is that does anyone arguing that not having a license is the difference really believe that a cyclist needs a license? Do you really think that they don't have the ability to ride a bike properly without one? Do you think that would make a difference. They can get a ticket for not following the law without having to have a license. Requiring a license doesn't do anything. This is just a talking point to get the argument to swing to your side because people are annoyed with cyclists.
I ride a good bit. I get annoyed when I see another cyclist doing something wrong on the road. Even when they are on the sidewalk and they just blow past a driveway to a shopping center without yielding. But (at least where I ride) cars do just as much stupid shite.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:34 am to Salmon
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or what is funnier is idiots screaming "get out of the road", then cyclist get out of the road, and then people park their cars in the bike lane so bikes have to get back in the road
any way you can twist it to line up with your agenda huh?
you realize, regardless of that little white line, they are still in the road
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 11:35 am
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:35 am to gmrkr5
I mean...you did the exact same thing, no?
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:36 am to Salmon
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I mean...you did the exact same thing, no?
no i didnt. the "share the road" campaign is a real thing with commercials and signs. this fight clearly goes against that idea at its core
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 11:37 am
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:36 am to hoolius
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I think the issue with this argument is that there are more vehicles on the road now...and more importantly a lot more distracted drivers.
What about the issue that there is no remotely feasible or responsible way to create bike lanes throughout the city? And furthermore, the cost and disruption to motor vehicle traffic if bike lanes were prevalent would be utterly absurd.
With that reality in mind, how much difference does it actually make to create bike lanes on this one residential street? If you are truly a dedicated cyclist, then the bike lane on Glenmore should represent a tiny fraction of the public roadways you travel. And unless the city goes totally nuts, you will never be able to count on bike lanes for the majority of your travel.
This issue is like all of the other political correctness battles that dominate headlines. Cyclists want to be considered a special class of citizen/victims and the Glenmore bike lane has become a government sanctioned symbol of their "special" status.
I love riding motorcycles, but I rarely do it in BR anymore because the dangers involved take the fun out of it. And that's a fact of life that no government program, policy or special dispensation of public assets will ever change.
Ride your bicycle if you want to. Face the realities of the risks involved and the realities of the minor importance of your selected mode of travel in the big picture.
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