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re: Baby born with Down Syndrome. Mom wants to give him up, but Dad refuses.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:25 am to TigerDude80
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:25 am to TigerDude80
Was reading this last night. Apparently, in Armenia, if you have a baby born with a disability, you are allowed to just give it up. No idea what they do with the kids.
It's a horrible practice and I don't see how these people can live with themselves. My wife was reading this with a look of horror on her face.
It's a horrible practice and I don't see how these people can live with themselves. My wife was reading this with a look of horror on her face.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:28 am to LSUTil_iDie
That kid will be much happier than your average person. People with Down Syndrome are a lot of work, but they spread joy like nobody else. Definitely pays off.
ETA: My post makes them sound like an investment. Just know that Down Syndrome people are fricking awesome. And people who think they can decide whether or not another person will be happy can frick off. And people who can't make sacrifices for their kids shouldn't be having them in the first place.
ETA: My post makes them sound like an investment. Just know that Down Syndrome people are fricking awesome. And people who think they can decide whether or not another person will be happy can frick off. And people who can't make sacrifices for their kids shouldn't be having them in the first place.
This post was edited on 2/6/15 at 10:32 am
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:29 am to sicboy
The kids often die young in state run nasty orphanages.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:34 am to sicboy
I wouldn't give my child up if he/she had a disability but I'm just trying to play Devils advocate for my own info.
So say a couple has a child with DS but dont have all the money to pay for special care, med bills, special education, and who knows what other required expenses. How do they afford it?
Tax breaks? Insurance takes care of it? Obama pays for it? Or tough luck they're on their own? This is a legit question btw not trolling
So say a couple has a child with DS but dont have all the money to pay for special care, med bills, special education, and who knows what other required expenses. How do they afford it?
Tax breaks? Insurance takes care of it? Obama pays for it? Or tough luck they're on their own? This is a legit question btw not trolling
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:52 am to LSUTil_iDie
Just popping in to post a couple pics of the wife.
This post was edited on 2/6/15 at 11:19 am
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:53 am to TigerPox
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She looks a little downsy.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:54 am to LSUTil_iDie
What a piece of shite human.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:55 am to lsu480
Here here,
We see the stories on here daily of people that shouldn't have ever had kids and the horrible things they do to these kids.
This is a person wanting to give up that child that could have very well ended up being one of those stories. personally think that's a much more desired outcome
We see the stories on here daily of people that shouldn't have ever had kids and the horrible things they do to these kids.
This is a person wanting to give up that child that could have very well ended up being one of those stories. personally think that's a much more desired outcome
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:56 am to MrPackSix
my sister has downs
alot of the programs available to her are made available through the state, but she had to get on the list to receive those programs years before she actually received them, and my parents went out of pocket for everything before that (and still do for a lot of things)
public schools can have very good special ed programs but some smaller towns do not
my parents obviously are still spending money on my sister (now in her 20's) bc they will be "raising her" for the rest of their lives or until they no longer can and I or one of my siblings takes her in to live with us, but as far as expenses go, its usually just like any other child along with a few programs here and there that the state doesnt offer . but you're also not shelling out for a new car, a crazy phone, and a bunch of stuff that kids want
You obviously have to spend a lot more time with a child with downs because they take much longer to grasp concepts that children usually grasp quickly (my little sister didnt start walking til she was about 2.5) but there arent always a ton of medical bills
my sister has actually had no unusual health issues
there are clearly many other disabilities that this is not the case, and while people with downs have a high chance of being diagnosed with alzheimers as they get older, most standard cases of children with downs dont require tons of healthcare bills
there are people with severe downs that can have a lot of health issues related to the weakness of their heart, but thats not incredibly common.
TLDR: From first hand experience with my younger sister, while caring for a child with Downs takes a lot of time, it doesnt necessary take A LOT more out of pocket expenses than raising a child without downs (depending on what special ed programs are in your area).
alot of the programs available to her are made available through the state, but she had to get on the list to receive those programs years before she actually received them, and my parents went out of pocket for everything before that (and still do for a lot of things)
public schools can have very good special ed programs but some smaller towns do not
my parents obviously are still spending money on my sister (now in her 20's) bc they will be "raising her" for the rest of their lives or until they no longer can and I or one of my siblings takes her in to live with us, but as far as expenses go, its usually just like any other child along with a few programs here and there that the state doesnt offer . but you're also not shelling out for a new car, a crazy phone, and a bunch of stuff that kids want
You obviously have to spend a lot more time with a child with downs because they take much longer to grasp concepts that children usually grasp quickly (my little sister didnt start walking til she was about 2.5) but there arent always a ton of medical bills
my sister has actually had no unusual health issues
there are clearly many other disabilities that this is not the case, and while people with downs have a high chance of being diagnosed with alzheimers as they get older, most standard cases of children with downs dont require tons of healthcare bills
there are people with severe downs that can have a lot of health issues related to the weakness of their heart, but thats not incredibly common.
TLDR: From first hand experience with my younger sister, while caring for a child with Downs takes a lot of time, it doesnt necessary take A LOT more out of pocket expenses than raising a child without downs (depending on what special ed programs are in your area).
This post was edited on 2/6/15 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:58 am to MrPackSix
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So say a couple has a child with DS but dont have all the money to pay for special care, med bills, special education, and who knows what other required expenses. How do they afford it?
You just make it happen. Maybe you're in constant debt for the rest of your life. That doesn't matter when it comes to caring for your child. We'd be in big financial trouble if our son came down with a serious illness that required medical attention not covered by insurance, but I wouldn't think twice about taking out loans or whatever to make sure he got it.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:00 am to sicboy
It's real easy to tell who is a parent and who isn't in this thread.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:02 am to Ash Williams
How can a mother just turn her back on her baby like that? I can't speak for anyone other than myself but I still vividly remember the first moment I saw my children at the time of their births. You get this overwhelming rush of what I can only describe as complete and total love and devotion to this little person that is beyond anything you ever though possible. So what if they're not "perfect" or have a disability? As a parent that does not matter even a bit compared to your love and devotion to your child. How is it possible this woman just decided to cast aside her newborn baby like a dish at a restaurant that the cook got wrong?
This post was edited on 2/6/15 at 11:03 am
Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:03 am to Oates Mustache
In the wedding dress:
What's sad is that's her sister on the right and many of her sister's FB pics/posts are of her helping unfortunate kids.
Sister's FB Profile
What's sad is that's her sister on the right and many of her sister's FB pics/posts are of her helping unfortunate kids.
Sister's FB Profile
This post was edited on 2/6/15 at 11:11 am
Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:03 am to sicboy
Is it possible they staged this whole thing to make money? I know that's looking for the worst in people but it just seems a little odd how she would divorce him on the spot just like that and it didn't take him long to head to the crowd funding sites
Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:04 am to Darth_Vader
In a nutshell, yes.
People are fricking selfish in modern times. I've been noticing it getting worse the older I get.
People are fricking selfish in modern times. I've been noticing it getting worse the older I get.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:05 am to LSUTil_iDie
downs isn't even that bad.
So many worse things.
My younger brother was born without most of his brain. He was only supposed to live a few months. He lived 18 years. Never saw, spoke, heard anything. But would laugh and cry and all. Couldn't walk, had to be in a chair most of the time or bed.
But my parents took him on every trip, and every vacation. Maybe sometimes I was embarrassed of him, but I miss him.
My parents were even told to abort but didn't.
Freaking a kid with downs can still have almost a normal life. Stupid selfish woman.
So many worse things.
My younger brother was born without most of his brain. He was only supposed to live a few months. He lived 18 years. Never saw, spoke, heard anything. But would laugh and cry and all. Couldn't walk, had to be in a chair most of the time or bed.
But my parents took him on every trip, and every vacation. Maybe sometimes I was embarrassed of him, but I miss him.
My parents were even told to abort but didn't.
Freaking a kid with downs can still have almost a normal life. Stupid selfish woman.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:06 am to SwaggerCopter
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That kid will be much happier than your average person. People with Down Syndrome are a lot of work, but they spread joy like nobody else. Definitely pays off.
We do a yearly ride and benefit picnic for a local program for kids with disabilities. From my experience, kids with downs are just like what you've described. They have a pure heart that you just can't help be be happy when around them. We do the benefit for the kids to help raise money for their center and make them happy, but to be honest, I think they give more to us than we can hope to give to them.
This post was edited on 2/6/15 at 11:09 am
Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:08 am to Grim
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Is it possible they staged this whole thing to make money? I know that's looking for the worst in people but it just seems a little odd how she would divorce him on the spot just like that and it didn't take him long to head to the crowd funding sites
I guess anything is possible, but I doubt it. In a country that allows you to abandon your kid if he's not completely healthy, this type of reaction is probably the norm.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:10 am to Darth_Vader
There is an obvious drop in people with Down Syndrome. Which is really screwed up. Because that means people are aborting them. I will never for the life of my understand how abortion is legal and socially acceptable.
Babies born before the abortion cutoff have survived. That says a lot.
Babies born before the abortion cutoff have survived. That says a lot.
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