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Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:59 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Do you think gravity is real?
ETA: Meaning, do you think we can explain it?
ETA: Meaning, do you think we can explain it?
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 9:00 am
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:01 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Link?
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:03 am to ShortyRob
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You hear "theory of evolution" and say, "see, just a a theory". You're missing the reality that the term "theory of evolution" refers to HOW evolution happened, not whether evolution happened. Whether it happened is most certainly FACT.
Bravo. The theory of evolution can make precise and outlandish predictions and then see those predictions proven. So in a sense, yes it has been proven.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:04 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:Just for you since you live under a rock. You could probably find 10,000 instances just like the link I'm linking. This is but one.
Link?
Because the evidence supporting it is so strong, scientists no longer question whether biological evolution has occurred and is continuing to occur. Instead, they investigate the mechanisms of evolution, how rapidly evolution can take place, and related questions.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:04 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
It's just so ironic to me that these atheists all talk of their superior intellect but can't grasp the concept that Genesis is over 3000 years old. Did you want Noah to explain quantum physics to people that couldn't read or write? Genesis chapter 1 cannot be taken in its complete literal sense. Scientific theory freely acknowledges that it cannot address the supernatural because it is untestable. Science and faith are two completely different entities.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:06 am to The First Cut
quote:Huh
It's just so ironic to me that these atheists all talk of their superior intellect but can't grasp the concept that Genesis is over 3000 years old.
quote:I actually say this all the time. It would absurd to think that even if a creator spoke to Noah, that he would've started talking about universal expansion and shite. He probably would've left out the details.
Did you want Noah to explain quantum physics to people that couldn't read or write?
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 9:08 am
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:07 am to ShortyRob
So why is science vs God even a topic?? Both sides of this argument are completely nuts.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:09 am to The First Cut
quote:
t's just so ironic to me that these atheists all talk of their superior intellect but can't grasp the concept that Genesis is over 3000 years old.
In this discussion I have not
1)made overreaching judgements of a persons intellect
2) challenged biblical assertions
3) stated that I was an atheist.
But keep on keeping on, martyr.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:10 am to Hester Carries
Considering I wasn't addressing you, I think you know where you truly stand on this.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:12 am to The First Cut
quote:Meh. I just jumped in the last page or so.
So why is science vs God even a topic?? Both sides of this argument are completely nuts.
I simply find the ID folks funny because they seem to think that ID has something to do with the God of their Bible when even if they could 100% PROVE ID, it would say literally ZERO about the God of their Bible.
Moreover, it would have absolutely no bearing on any Scientific theories as the fact is, the existence of a creator under ID doesn't preclude that creator from doing absolutely everything via the methods theorized.
But, finally, ID also doesn't say squat about if that creator gives two hoots about the insignificant little beings in some Galactic suburb in one out of billions of Galaxaies.
Basically, it's completely irrelevant and IDers act like it's some sort of important thing.
Like I said, ID really looks like a thing two atheists would discuss. Maybe one atheist would say, "I wonder if somehow, some highly evolved being that exists in more than 3 dimensions caused this shite"???
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:14 am to ShortyRob
Why can't an ID'er be speaking in terms of their own God?
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:17 am to ShortyRob
I find people that say God can't exist because of science to be equally as funny. If you actually read the Bible it's very clear that it doesn't try to explain scientific matters. Creation isn't 1% of Christianity, but it's all that atheists and their polar opposite zealots cling to. The whole thing is very sad because the much bigger picture is lost in this minutia.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:19 am to Sampson
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I'm so grateful that Im not an atheist. Not a very smart group.
Says the guy who believes in make believe
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:20 am to The First Cut
quote:I can't speak for others, but I don't say "God can't exist" and I definitely don't say "God can't exist because of Science".
I find people that say God can't exist because of science to be equally as funny
I'm merely atheist and not the "oh God, please don't pray in front of me cause I'll be offended" kind.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:21 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:They can be. I'm merely observing that proving ID says NOTHING regarding that God.
Why can't an ID'er be speaking in terms of their own God?
It's like some odd side door to talking about the God of the Bible when nothing about proving ID actually does that.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:26 am to The First Cut
quote:
It's just so ironic to me that these atheists all talk of their superior intellect but can't grasp the concept that Genesis is over 3000 years old.
More like 1500 years old.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:27 am to The First Cut
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Creation isn't 1% of Christianity, but it's all that atheists and their polar opposite zealots cling to
You think the entire atheist argument is dependent on solely the creation story?
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:28 am to ShortyRob
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I can't speak for others, but I don't say "God can't exist" and I definitely don't say "God can't exist because of Science".
Well, while I agree speaking in absolutes is folly, God is as likely to be real as any other work of fiction that evidence doesn't exist to actually refute. But that's why this argument is ridiculous...with God, we are somehow supposed to prove he doesn't exist when the burden of proof is truly the other way around.
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