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re: Atheists die sooner, are ill longer, and lead less happy lives than non-atheists
Posted on 12/26/14 at 7:50 am to lsu480
Posted on 12/26/14 at 7:50 am to lsu480
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It does tell us how humans and the word were created,just like a lot of "science books" do.
If you honestly believe that the creation of the world, and the creation of all living things can be summed up in one chapter of one book then I guess you can call that a science book. However, you'd be ignoring 63.95 other books in the Bible and you would have a mentality that is over 500 years out of date. The Bible is not a science book, only atheists and extremists make it out to be.
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:01 am to Hester Carries
Then please explain what other sort of life is possible-without planets and stars and galaxies, etc., for it to be formed on or by.
What kind of life are you talking about? Something from your imagination?
What kind of life are you talking about? Something from your imagination?
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:03 am to tobythetiger
Science is out of the scope of the Bible. I can't explain it with the Bible - go to science for that.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:05 am to The First Cut
Since atheists are all about evidence, wouldn't they require proof that Jesus Christ didn't exist?
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:06 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
There's more proof of Jesus's existence than many of the Roman wars in history books.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:08 am to The First Cut
I'm aware. I just think believing in the Big Bang, evolution, etc requires just as much faith as believing in intelligent design
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:13 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Ignorance is bliss.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:13 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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I'm aware. I just think believing in the Big Bang, evolution, etc requires just as much faith as believing in intelligent design
Evidence means you don't have to have faith.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:16 am to colorchangintiger
There is no complete evidence that takes us from the Big Bang theory to the point where humans are now. That's why it's called " the Big Bang theory" and "the theory of evolution"
And as a poster above said, there is more evidence that Jesus existed than many of the other happenings in recorded history that are accepted as fact
And as a poster above said, there is more evidence that Jesus existed than many of the other happenings in recorded history that are accepted as fact
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 8:18 am
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:17 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
The Big Bang can easily equal God said let there be light.
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 8:18 am
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:18 am to The First Cut
Oh I know, I'm saying from a scientific standpoint, it hasn't been proven as a big accident rather than intelligent design
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:20 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
What amazes me about atheists is their expectation that Noah could adequately explain the creation of the universe 3000 years ago. Maybe, just maybe, things were simplified for the intelligence level of the people of that time.
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 8:21 am
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:34 am to tobythetiger
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Then please explain what other sort of life is possible-without planets and stars and galaxies, etc., for it to be formed on or by. What kind of life are you talking about? Something from your imagination?
These questions would make physicist and biologists laugh. Dude, I couldn't begin to tell you what the other universe would be. It wouldn't just look a little different. Time might not exist. It might not be carbon based.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:36 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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That's why it's called " the Big Bang theory" and "the theory of evolution"
False. You don't understand what a scientific theory is.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:38 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:Why does this even matter?
Oh I know, I'm saying from a scientific standpoint, it hasn't been proven as a big accident rather than intelligent design
Intelligent design doesn't even come close to implying a God such as the one anybody talking about "God" means.
Hell, it doesn't even actually require the existence of a "God".
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:42 am to ShortyRob
I don't know how the universe began so, uh .... um .... God!!
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:43 am to Hester Carries
quote:Time doesn't technically exist in this one either
Time might not exist
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:46 am to Gmorgan4982
quote:Yeah.
I don't know how the universe began so, uh .... um .... God!!
I think the ID folks though have become just flatly absurd. They seem to think that if they can somehow at least prove intelligent design that this would be informative.
Now, it would be one thing if two atheists were contemplating Intelligent design. THAT would actually make sense to me. Why someone who believes in the God of the Bible(or some variation thereof) thinks ID is important is beyond me.
An intelligent designer need not even be a God but hell, assuming said Intelligent designer meets some definition of what a God is, proving ID says pretty much ZERO about that designer's role in the lives of Humans or any other product of creation. Moreover, it has literally ZERO to say on how evolution played out in that said Intelligent Designer could've totally done everything via everything Science has discovered or will discover.
Like I said, the idea of an intelligent designer really and truly looks to me like a discussion two atheists could likely have.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:51 am to Hester Carries
I understand perfectly what a scientific theory is. It is observed circumstantial evidence that is accepted as an explanation of a phenomena. None of that equates to being a scientific fact
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:57 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:Like he said, apparently, you don't comprehend the concept of "theory" fully.
I understand perfectly what a scientific theory is. It is observed circumstantial evidence that is accepted as an explanation of a phenomena. None of that equates to being a scientific fact
You hear "theory of evolution" and say, "see, just a a theory". You're missing the reality that the term "theory of evolution" refers to HOW evolution happened, not whether evolution happened. Whether it happened is most certainly FACT.
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