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re: As a manager, how do you manage people way older than you?

Posted on 2/12/24 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
1974 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 9:37 pm to
Very easy:
Put instructions in larger bold caps on the ice cream machine.

Signs next to the fryer that says “extremely hot, do not touch”

“Wash hands” before returning to work next to the toilet

And so forth….
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
2917 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 9:39 pm to
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Older employees tend to be a wealth of knowledge if you give them respect



Amazing how many young college educated people don't realize the wealth of knowledge 30-40 years of ACTUAL experience is worth compared to that piece of paper they paid so much for.
Just because you have a title does not mean you have knowledge or respect.
Both are earned, not given.
Posted by Scuttle But
Member since Nov 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 9:44 pm to
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was a manager at my last job and we hired a retired Army Major on the same pay scale as me. He literally couldn't wrap his head around that a former Army E-4 and a retired O-4 were on the same level in the civilian world.


Most former officers aren't like that. I'm a former E-6 and have had plenty of O-4 thru O-6s work for me. It's rarely been a problem.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10595 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:05 pm to
I manage people way older than me. I'm talking, I'm 38 and they're all the the way up to 78.

Clear expectations. Receptive to feedback. Willing to listen. Recognize experience is valuable.

That's the secret sauce IMO. We have a great team of all ages that works well together.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7577 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:09 pm to
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Realize they are stuck for a reason. If they’re still employed, they prob do a decent job but struggle with solutions or wrapping a bow on things and moving along.



7 or 8 years ago I had a guy sent to my crew in the field who easily had the knowledge and physical ability to have mover up to Supervisor or even Superintendent.

I once had a chance to ask him why he was still a tech.

his honest answer...he had no desire to deal with all of the bullshite that comes with moving up the ladder.
he could do the job, enjoyed doing the job, but didn't want to deal with organizing and running a crew, dealing with clients, dealing with the office, etc.
Said the extra money he could have made wasn't worth the extra headaches and stress (plus the extra hours we sometimes had to pull after the shift was done).

he just wanted to go to work everyday and make his money, then go home.

i actually almost envied him.
he lived comfortably within his means and was actually the happiest and most content guy on the crew.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48719 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:10 pm to
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I manage people way older than me. I'm talking, I'm 38 and they're all the the way up to 78.

If I'm voluntarily working at damn near 80 just shoot me in the head with one of those cattle bolt guns.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7577 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:15 pm to
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managing people in 50s feels weird


no, what's weird is when someone that once outranked you, and was a large part the main guy that trained you gets a demotion he didn't deserve and you pass them up and are now above them.

now you have to manage a guy with more experience, waaaay more knowledge, and if i'm being honest more talented than you who fell victim to office politics.
dude wasn't a problem for me in anyway, just felt awkward as hell to line him up for tasks that in reality he probably should have been lining me up for.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
2917 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:06 pm to
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Realize they are stuck for a reason. If they’re still employed, they prob do a decent job but struggle with solutions or wrapping a bow on things and moving along.


7 or 8 years ago I had a guy sent to my crew in the field who easily had the knowledge and physical ability to have mover up to Supervisor or even Superintendent.

I once had a chance to ask him why he was still a tech.

his honest answer...he had no desire to deal with all of the bullshite that comes with moving up the ladder.
he could do the job, enjoyed doing the job, but didn't want to deal with organizing and running a crew, dealing with clients, dealing with the office, etc.
Said the extra money he could have made wasn't worth the extra headaches and stress (plus the extra hours we sometimes had to pull after the shift was done).

he just wanted to go to work everyday and make his money, then go home.

i actually almost envied him.
he lived comfortably within his means and was actually the happiest and most content guy on the crew.



Sound like he found his solution, and puts a bow on it at the end of each day, leaving all the BS for someone else to deal with.
I can respect that as it is pretty much my philosophy.
I would rather be happy and not have to work 60+ hours a week than feel like I have to chase the brass ring 24/7.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
8051 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:14 pm to
You both have a job to do. I’m older and there’s times I take orders from someone younger than me. At the end of the day my job is to get whatever he says done.
It’s all in how you talk to them.
Posted by fool_on_the_hill
Member since Jan 2019
511 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 12:32 am to
ill tell you how mine does it , he only sends out snippy sarcastic emails, although i work in the same building same shift , he has spoken to me face to face 4 times in 5 years
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
1828 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:26 am to
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Do they not work? Do they not do the job you ask them to do?


This.

When they yell at me to make more fries, I make more fries.
Posted by mthorn2
Planet Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
1234 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:16 am to
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How can this be true? You know they have no desire to grow next 5-10 same as a 25 year old


Most people are content and drift through life. The drive isn't there, minimum purpose, no direction, and a lack of future growth intent. If they are a good task worker then learn their needs, support their abilities, and Lead them. Also call them on phone don't message/email them to death
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56432 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:21 am to
They are in their 50s. Just tell em what to do. They are used to that. Hid bless managing a 20 something
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