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Posted on 1/3/23 at 6:37 am to CelticDog
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you would weigh 460 lbs.
You assume he doesn't already weigh that...
Posted on 1/3/23 at 6:57 am to Methuselah
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Are there any ways under possible future scientific advancements, that planets like Mars or Venus or maybe something like the moon could be altered to provide a life sustaining atmosphere?
Yes it's called terraforming and can be done in theory. In practice it would take tons of work and a long time. If you can get vegetation to grow, then the atmosphere will slowly build itself and the temperature would regulate (assuming the planet was the right distance from the Sun). And the vegetation would put oxygen into the atmosphere, perhaps making it breathable.
Probably a better option is to just find a planet that already has vegetation, fresh water and an atmosphere. There are many of them out there. Of course, getting there is the hard part. Would need to find a way "around" relativity to make the travel time practical.
EDIT: We would also have to consider a planet's mass which determines its gravitational strength. If you get a planet that's too big, then you will feel like you have 300 lbs on your back. If you get a planet that's too small, you will jump around like astronauts on the moon. Neither is too preferable to live in 24/7. You'd need to find a planet within a few percent of the earth's mass to making living there feel normal.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 7:02 am
Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:15 am to Methuselah
If Mars has ice we could in theory nuke the shite out of the polar regions. Create steam and possibly jump start the atmosphere but then it would still take hundreds if not thousands of years to get close to earth.
More than likely we will see dome bases growing to encompasses "outside" bases. We may see this in next 40 years.
More than likely we will see dome bases growing to encompasses "outside" bases. We may see this in next 40 years.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:32 am to Methuselah
I hope not. Biden will just send all the taxpayer money there.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:40 am to Methuselah
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"For the scientific aficionados out there..."
You mean those who still buy the Jesuit "Outer Space" Deception?
Naah. IMPOSSIBALL.
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"... future scientific advancements, that planets like Mars or Venus or maybe something like the moon could be altered to provide a life sustaining atmosphere?"
Sure.
In Arthur C. Clarke's brain. In matte paintings and movie "magic", where holograms and CGI have long created amazing "reality" these days.
For others, Elon Musk's Neural Implant will probably do the same.
Geez. You guys.
The domed FIRMAMENT is a ENCLOSED SYSTEM. We cannot leave it. An impotent NASA reinforces the truth every day.
Here is our Reality:
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:52 am to Darth_Vader
Come on, Cohaagan. Gift is peep-hole ear.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:54 am to Methuselah
Not sure. I like Elon. Don't entirely get his obsession with Mars unless it is just a stepping stone. You are not going to terraform that red rock.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 9:03 am to MLSter
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But if you can’t come to grips with us not landing on the moon first ask yourself how we “lost the technology and haven’t been able to get it back”
But...but...somehow you'll be called a "dumb conspiracy-theorist" and down-voted.
Never mind NASA's whole, "We lost the tech and know-how to return to the moon makes the entire "Mission" 100% Bullsh*t.
NASA can't "lose" what's impossible to begin with.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 9:21 am to Methuselah
Your boyfriend definitely inhabits Uranus. So, Yes.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 9:37 am to tigerbutt
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believe Jupiter is as big as it is in order to sustain a larger population whether it’s humans or aliens which may be billions or trillions of years from now.
Jupiter is a gas giant it has no surface
Posted on 1/3/23 at 9:46 am to dbeck
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One day we'll be able to download our consciousness into a computer. Then we'll send these computers into space headed for the nearest habitable solar system. As we leave our solar system the computers will shut down to conserve power. But when the sunlight from the new solar system hits our solar panels we will wake up and continue our existence.
Or human cloning. I could see technology where an adult has his memories/knowledge uploaded to a computer. Send a ship to a habitable planet. Ship has human DNA matter preserved and computers set to use that to clone numerous humans upon arrival. The memories/knowledge uploaded is somehow flashed into the brain of the clone. Assuming the clone is at the fetal stage, the computers take care of it in an incubator until the person can exit it and using it’s knowledge flashed into its brain, can take care of itself at a young age. Pre recorded videos on the ship along with the memories and knowledge help the humans along.
To me, that’s not out of realm of impossible
Posted on 1/3/23 at 9:49 am to Methuselah
Kim Stanley Robinson did a science fiction trilogy on this decades ago. I wonder if Elon read it in the 90s.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 9:52 am to AUstar
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you get a planet that's too big, then you will feel like you have 300 lbs on your back. I
This would suck
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you get a planet that's too small, you will jump around like astronauts on the moon
Could deal with this
Posted on 1/3/23 at 9:54 am to AUstar
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If you get a planet that's too big, then you will feel like you have 300 lbs on your back.
that's it, i'm going train on a bigger planet, get bigger and stronger than anyone on earth, come back and be a superhero.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 10:00 am to AUstar
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There are many of them out there. Of course, getting there is the hard part. Would need to find a way "around" relativity to make the travel time practical.
That "way" has already been discovered. The problem is we currently do not possess the power generation and storage capacity required to fold space/time
Youtube Warp Drive discovery/explanation
Posted on 1/3/23 at 10:17 am to adamau
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Your boyfriend definitely inhabits Uranus. So, Yes.
3 pages in and only 1 Uranus reference. Ya'll are slacking.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 10:35 am to AUstar
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Yes it's called terraforming and can be done in theory. In practice it would take tons of work and a long time. If you can get vegetation to grow, then the atmosphere will slowly build itself and the temperature would regulate (assuming the planet was the right distance from the Sun). And the vegetation would put oxygen into the atmosphere, perhaps making it breathable.
Probably a better option is to just find a planet that already has vegetation, fresh water and an atmosphere. There are many of them out there. Of course, getting there is the hard part. Would need to find a way "around" relativity to make the travel time practical.
The biggest problem is the magnetic field. Mars doesn't generate one like Earth and the gas giants. Without it the atmosphere gets blasted away slowly overtime from the radiation the sun emits. If humans can find a way to generate a field to protect the atmosphere it wouldn't be hard to build an atmosphere just would take a very long time.
The colonization of Mars will be domes for probably a thousand years or more.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 10:49 am to LB84
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The colonization of Mars will be domes for probably a thousand years or more.
Or something underground like lava tubes.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:44 am to Methuselah
artificial atmospheres under the surface seem pretty possible on most planets/moons. terra forming would require the goldilocks setting.
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