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re: Are dentists real doctors?

Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:49 pm to
Posted by 911Moto
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:49 pm to
lol - Yeah, be sorry for him. If you're lucky, you'll be working for him one day. More likely, you'll be washing his car.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 10:53 pm
Posted by RingLeader
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:53 pm to
Ask an oral surgeon which is harder out of med or dent school. They would be able to give you a pretty fair assessment.
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:01 pm to
It's not simply a matter of which is harder - dental school requires excellence in hand skills from the very start, whereas that aspect doesn't become a necessity in medical school until surgical rotations. There are some extremely intelligent people who can handle the book work of dental school, but who fail miserably at the hands-on stuff. Some people just aren't cut out for it.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 11:02 pm
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:05 pm to
I doubt it. If someone did both med and dental school, they probably couldn't tell you which was harder considering whichever they did second is going to be much easier by virtue of having done the other already.
Posted by RingLeader
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2007
1050 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:07 pm to
Yeah, we had 3 that busted out in 1st yr. They throw you right into waxing dental anatomy and cutting cl 2 preps on typodonts all the while you are in gross anat, neuro, & biochem among the other 10 little classes all going on simultaneously.

You can skip out of a basic science lecture and grab the notes or tape from a friend or service. But there is no skipping out of the pre-clinical labs. Good times..
Posted by captainahab
Highway Trio8
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

Dr. Shultz


Where would Dr. Strangelove fit in your definition(s)?
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:09 pm to
This...I really don't think anyone who did well enough in dental school to get in OMFS would struggle to pass med school.
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:10 pm to
This too...bridge preps are killing me now and now I'm too far to back out.
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:12 pm to
We lost 5 in the first year, which was nearly 10% of the class. I think one might have transferred to med school - don't know where the rest ended up. One guy in our class was on the 7 year plan. He went one year, failed out and they sent him back to UNO for a year, started over, then got pushed back a year again before making it out. Someone had to be pulling strings for him.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 11:15 pm
Posted by RingLeader
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2007
1050 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:12 pm to
Not likely. Those people are a good mix of smart and skilled. OMFS is a tough gig. I don't envy them.
Posted by RingLeader
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2007
1050 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:14 pm to
Bridge preps. C'mon man.

We lost 1 to med school, 1 got a chance to rejoin the next class and he did OK with his 2nd chance, and 1 was asked to get as far away from dentistry as possible.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 11:19 pm
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14964 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:32 pm to
quote:

This...I really don't think anyone who did well enough in dental school to get in OMFS would struggle to pass med school.



Not only that, but they get to go to med school after 4 years of professional-school-level sciences with the added bonus of only requiring a Pass after having gotten to where they are by being in the top quartile in the vast majority of cases. Their newfound ability to slouch and perform in the bottom 10%, should they choose to with no ill effects on their outcome, graduation, or job prospects, really doesn't make them great for comparing the two, despite being the best at being able to do so.


Neither is harder. Not everything in life is tiered and ranked. They're both challenging in very similar ways with their own unique characteristics mixed in here and there. They both put you in position to be paid for your opinion and, in almost all fields, some amount of physical manipulation/cutting/sewing after an amount of training that is deemed adequate to perform those duties at a very high level. MDs offer a much more diverse overall healthcare approach upon graduation, with every graduate having demonstrated enough basic knowledge to identify and treat life-threatening emergencies from both medical (drugs given during heart attack, stroke, anaphylaxis, etc) and procedural (exposure and enough understanding that they should be able to confidently attempt an intubation, chest tube, etc if in dire need) standpoints. DDS graduate essentially practice-ready with a more limited, focused amount of specialized skills that no other group possesses. Neither of those is any better than the other. Essentially everyone would likely prefer one to the other. It's little more than personal choice.
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