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re: Apple already unlocked 70 other iPhones for feds
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:16 am to gmrkr5
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:16 am to gmrkr5
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do you know how easily a 4 digit pin can be brute forced? you remove the self destruct feature and i can get in that phone in less than 10 minutes with open source tools.
I'm aware, but if the self destruct feature can be removed on an existing phone already, then doesn't a flaw already exist?
ETA: Apple should clarify if they're saying they will not help the FBI find a backdoor to the auto-erase feature OR if a backdoor to the auto-erase feature does not exist in the first place.
If it is the latter, no big deal. If it is the former, then that is a problem IMO.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 10:18 am
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:16 am to tigerjunior
Its already been stating that the feds just want Apple to help them unlock this ONE SPECIFIC phone. Apple is such a hypocritical company.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:16 am to jeff5891
quote:I don't think anyone here is disputing that...
This does not give the FBI a God key for apples encryption methods. This will allow the FBI Unlimited password entries. That's it
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:17 am to slackster
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I'm aware, but if the self destruct feature can be removed on an existing phone already, then doesn't a flaw already exist?
anything can be done when you own the source code. doesnt mean its a good idea
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:17 am to prince of fools
quote:You really believe that if Apple hands over the software that gives the Feds the ability to get into any iPhone, they are only going to use it JUST THIS ONCE?
Its already been stating that the feds just want Apple to help them unlock this ONE SPECIFIC phone.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 10:18 am
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:18 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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You really believe that if Apple hands over the software that allows the Feds the ability to get into any iPhone, they are only going to use it JUST THIS ONCE?
wont this just work for this one OS version?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:20 am to prince of fools
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Its already been stating that the feds just want Apple to help them unlock this ONE SPECIFIC phone. Apple is such a hypocritical company.
I'm glad you believe what Obama says.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:21 am to MrSmith
quote:read the first two pages
I don't think anyone here is disputing that
Still the phone running ios9 does not matter bc the FBI is not asking to extract files from a locked phone.
They want user access using a modified version that gives them unlimited password attempts with apples signature. That's it.
And in the other cases, Apple actually helped extract files from a locked iphone
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:22 am to CAD703X
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You really believe that if Apple hands over the software that gives the Feds the ability to get into any iPhone, they are only going to use it JUST THIS ONCE?
From what I understand, the FBI just wants to hand it over to company and have them make it so that they can try as many password combinations as they can without being locked out. They don't want apple to hand over any software. Apple is just showboating.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:23 am to MrSmith
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This will allow the FBI Unlimited password entries. That's it
My question is what happens when this exploit leaks out to the open web? Will the FBI take financial responsibility for massive financial losses at Apple?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:23 am to jeff5891
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read the first two pages
Still the phone running ios9 does not matter bc the FBI is not asking to extract files from a locked phone.
They want user access using a modified version that gives them unlimited password attempts with apples signature. That's it.
And in the other cases, Apple actually helped extract files from a locked iphone
you make it sound like one is better than the other. removing that feature is basically the same as decrypting the phone for the FBI, which apple cannot do.
everyone knows that without that feature that phone can and will be brute forced and unlocked real quick
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 10:24 am
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:23 am to NYNolaguy1
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This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 10:33 am
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:25 am to TexasTiger39
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That's bullshite. At worst, Apple will simply expose a way to get into the phone that hackers may discover and utilize.
this... they want apple to write an exploit for their own OS. no software company in their right mind would ever do that. not one that cares about security at least
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:26 am to jeff5891
quote:Using the encryption key
And in the other cases, Apple actually helped extract files from a locked iphone
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:27 am to gmrkr5
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removing that feature is basically the same as decrypting the phone for the FBI
You can't be more wrong Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:27 am to MrSmith
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Using the encryption key
no they didnt.
everyone in this thread needs to read up on asymmetric encryption before they post any more trying to pretend they know how this super top secret encryption stuff works
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:28 am to jeff5891
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You can't be more wrong
are you kidding me? whats the difference between handing me an unlocked device and handing me a device i can unlock on my own in a matter of minutes or hours?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:32 am to gmrkr5
quote:I was speaking of the old phones. Not iOS8 and newer
Using the encryption key
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:33 am to CAD703X
CAD, I used to like you, now go frick yourself with rusty barbed wire.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:34 am to gmrkr5
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whats the difference between handing me an unlocked device and handing me a device i can unlock on my own in a matter of minutes or hours
Your paraphrase here isn't exactly what you said before.
Asking apple to break their encryption which they developed is completely different than exploiting a huge whole in the security measures of older iphones. Security measures does not equal encryption.
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