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re: Alcoholism: Why it sucks.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:39 am to Ford Frenzy
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:39 am to Ford Frenzy
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I just don't have the desire to quit because it is not affecting my work
I hope it never does. As my drinking progressed over the years and my decision making suffered, it ended up getting the best of me. I had 10 years with a major top 2 oilfield service company in management. 2 kids, wife who didn't have to work, great job. My wife is ADD, and I never really liked adddderal, but I found that it helped me on bad hangover days. So, I had taken some on a Friday morning. Got popped for a random on Monday, fired on Friday. Job performance was outstanding. Had days before got $25K in restricted stock, $20K cash bonus, etc. My boss said their hands were tied. Fired with option to become eligible for rehire. They couldn't take me back in the same city and wanted me to apply in other regions, but "I" would ultimately never be seen as the same again. Decided to start over with a new company.
Nothing like having to come home and tell your wife you lost your job, to look at your kids and see their happiness, their content with finally settling in a new city and making friends... to have to pull them from private schools... uproot them. etc. etc. Pretty selfish moves by me over those years.
So, I hope it never progresses. "It will never happen to me" is a book my mom gave me 25 years ago b/c of my pops alcoholism. Ha, sure it will. Pops is on the liver transplant list with 46 years of daily drinking. Meanwhile, I managed to land on my feet and love life even more than before.
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:41 am to LucasP
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No....just no to all of this.
Are you an addict? What is your experience with dependency to argue otherwise?
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:44 am to Sevendust912
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When you are addicted to a drug, you cannot function properly without that drug
I disagree. It's a physical dependency if youre Nicolas Cage's character in Leaving Las Vegas. If you can type a sane response on a message board, you cant be physically dependent can you? Are you saying that a smoker quitting cigarettes cold turkey cant function without nicotine? Of course they can, they may not be pleasant for a few wks but they can certainly function.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:45 am to Sevendust912
That's where I disagree with Lucas. It is a physical dependency that alters the brain's normal way of receiving impulses and deciding whether to act on them. People battling addiction need to realize this because you have to know the deck is stacked against you.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:49 am to SabiDojo
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It is a physical dependency that alters the brain's normal way of receiving impulses and deciding whether to act on them. People battling addiction need to realize this because you have to know the deck is stacked against you.
It sucks. I remember being dope sick and it is damn near impossible to get out of bed, let alone function in society. You literally puke and shite yourself. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:50 am to Sevendust912
That sucks. At least that part is over. Best of luck.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:51 am to Ford Frenzy
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I drink every day, jack daniels at least 2-3 drinks...I drink too much about half the time..I just don't have a desire to quit because it's not affecting my work
So you think. My Dad was a full function alcoholic that was the top dog for the US Customs for the SE of the country. But yet when off work, he stayed plaster.
He couldn't shake it even after going in treatment a few times. Alcoholism ended killing him at 75 years old. Myself, I don't have a drinking problem. I can drink one beer and just walk away not needing another. But, it's a different story for my son. And yes, he does have a drinking problem and has been in treatment a few times. Only good thing is that he never drinks and drives. Thank God.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:55 am to Ford Frenzy
Frenzy. I would suspect that it has affected other aspects of your life, other than work
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:57 am to FT
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The best way to describe it to people who aren't alcoholics is this: Do you ever just crave a food and feel like no other food will do?
Um. no. Maybe you are looking for the bariatric surgery thread
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:57 am to fishfighter
my FIL was an alcoholic. Once he took one sip..he was fall down drunk for months..until he completely ran out of money and shite to sell. He wouldn't work, wouldn't attend any family functions... most of the time would not eat, just looked for the next drink.... this would go on until he finally decided to go to rehab... would stay sober for a while...go back to work, function like everyone else then...wham ! back on the bottle..
i never understood it.. not sure i ever learned to completely understand...
i never understood it.. not sure i ever learned to completely understand...
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:58 am to tzimme4
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tzimme4
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Bruh, don't drink it's easy.
Obviously you have never dealt with having a real alcoholic/addict in your life.
Yes it is easy not to drink for most people that are addicts. I am not an addict and it is very easy for me to say no or just have 1 drink.
My wife on the other hand it is very hard for her. She is currently 23 months sober. She is an alcoholic/addict. Addicts are wired completely differently and their brains are addicted to whatever drug or drink of their choice is.
Don't be a dick or a troll in an otherwise good thread.
To the OP, keep fighting the good fight. One day at a time. Don't dwell on your past, don't worry about your future, just work on today.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:02 am to FT
Best of luck to you FT. Lots of alcoholics come from parents that were alcoholics, which is another whole layer of suckage.
Sounds like you will bet it eventually. I've known people that took years to beat it but finally did after much perseverance.
Sounds like you will bet it eventually. I've known people that took years to beat it but finally did after much perseverance.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:03 am to ThatsAFactJack
One day at a time, sometimes a minute at a time
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:04 am to RealityTiger
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RealityTiger
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To me, it came from AA. I found God through AA. Not through church, not on my own. Through AA. And to me God is my God, not the Catholic Church's God, not the Protestant God, my God. I claim spirituality rather than being religious. I claim many of the world's religions all wrapped up under one God.
Congrats on your sobriety. You hit a very important point above and one my wife echos. She found her "GOD" thru AA. Too many people want to associate GOD with a predefined religion. That is not what AA promotes. AA promotes a higher power, whatever that may be for each individual.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:10 am to ThatsAFactJack
This is true,
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:11 am to ThatsAFactJack
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Don't be a dick or a troll in an otherwise good thread.
To the OP, keep fighting the good fight. One day at a time. Don't dwell on your past, don't worry about your future, just work on today.
That's what's wrong with this site. If someone disagrees with you, then they are a trolling dickhead. That's not true. I just dont agree with you.
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My wife on the other hand it is very hard for her. She is currently 23 months sober. She is an alcoholic/addict. Addicts are wired completely differently and their brains are addicted to whatever drug or drink of their choice is.
Does she have the OPPORTUNITY to just say no and not bring the drink to her lips? Yes she does. She CHOOSES not to say no. No one forced her. That's what Im getting at, and why I dont understand it.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:13 am to fishfighter
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fishfighter
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But, it's a different story for my son.
Fish,
When your son is willing, look into Palmetto Addiction Recovery Center in Rayville. My wife, 38, is an alcohol/pain pill addict. She spent 6 weeks at Palmetto during the summer of 2012. She is now 23 months clean and has never looked better or had a better position in her life. She still goes to Palmetto for 1 day every 3 months as a followup.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:13 am to ThatsAFactJack
Finding your own "God" through AA is what is wrong with it, imo.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:16 am to dnm3305
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That's what's wrong with this site. If someone disagrees with you, then they are a trolling dickhead. That's not true. I just dont agree with you.
If you think it is "easy" for an alcoholic to stop drinking you are disagreeing with science.
Telling an alcoholic it is easy to stop drinking is condescending and makes that person look ignorant.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:22 am to dnm3305
If it was so frickin easy this thread doesn't exist.
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