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Alcoholism: Why it sucks.

Posted on 5/7/14 at 1:39 am
Posted by FT
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 1:39 am
I keep beating it and losing. The best way to describe it to people who aren't alcoholics is this: Do you ever just crave a food and feel like no other food will do? That's essentially what we feel, but we're willing to risk everything to get it. We ignore the possibility of seizures, nausea and other issues we might face by deciding not to. Either way, we put ourselves and those that care about us in jeopardy. We desperately crave alcohol. Beyond the risks to ourselves, we risk the lives of others by driving drunk to wherever alcohol is. Luckily and unluckily for me, my mother died driving drunk when I was young. I've never driven drunk. I've wanted to and never have.

The craving is either so intense that nothing in the world can stop you, or so crippling that you give up on everything. I'm a little different. I only rarely crave alcohol, but no matter the setting, if I have one drink I'll keep going until I'm almost passed out. The other night I drank almost two fifths of whiskey. The hangover was a bitch, but here I am, again, after another innocuous get together, drunk as hell and wondering why.

I know I can do better. I'm not weak. Just today I turned down a job offer that didn't make sense to me (pay, hours, the lack of experience of other people being brought on). That's not something random. Most of the time, I'm perfectly capable of making good decisions and doing the right thing. This is a different sort of thing. It's not as simple as being a genius or a dullard. It's about being controlled by a substance. Don't misunderstand me. We're people; we operate normally a huge amount of the time. At least functional alcoholics do. But we fall down constantly, and the reasons are obvious. You can't have a major desire to be drunk and still succeed.

If you're in that boat or feel like you might be, here's a good go between between AA and keeping it to yourself.

I have a problem. Luckily I have the support of friends and family and my situation isn't that dire. But I'm constantly aware that it could be, and to those of us who plan on having a future, that's unacceptable.

I try to keep things light here, but this site is too special and full of good people to not share insight.

If you need help, call your local AA group. If you don't want to do that, contact me. Anyone who's serious about quitting, know that I'm not perfect and I'm only a short way into recovery, but talking to someone who's also struggling may be what you need.

Let's fix this, or die trying. The alternative is dying without trying. I know what I'd rather do.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 1:44 am to
Did you believe in God before AA?
Posted by FT
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 1:46 am to
I've always believed in a prime mover. I could discuss theology and philosophy all night. That's not what this is about.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 1:50 am to
You brought up AA, not me. Your reasons for believing in a "primary mover" are important, especially if you look to that being for strength to help fight your addiction.
Posted by cattus
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 1:53 am to
quote:

if I have one drink I'll keep going until I'm almost passed out.


you wish you could quit drinking all together or be able to stop when you start?
Posted by FT
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 1:55 am to
I won't comment on the existence of a God here. I mentioned AA as a reasonable way to go. I also advocated contacting me.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 1:57 am to
I'd prefer to be in complete control of my impulses.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 2:01 am to
It was just a question. Your motivations and intentions are important if you look to some intangible higher power for help with something like this. Someone who believes in a God of any sort only because they want to defeat an addiction to alcohol aren't really addressing their problem. Their intentions and motivations are hollow, and they will more than likely fail in trying to defeat alcoholism.

You obviously need help. I hope you find someone or something that can help you.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 2:07 am to
quote:

I'd prefer to be in complete control of my impulses.


I'm sure we all would, my friend.
Posted by cattus
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 2:10 am to
quote:


I'd prefer to be in complete control of my impulses.


my girlfriend doesn't have the craving, she just can't stop when she starts and drives drunk. I'm afraid she will have a drink after work one night and get a DWI/DUI or hurt herself or someone else.

I contain it when I'm around and its fun but if I'm not...
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 2:11 am to
Not trying to be an arse but aren't impulses by definition difficult if not impossible to control?

Unless you mean the ability not to act on them

FTR: my interest in this thread is bc I wouldn't necessarily consider myself an alcoholic but I do have a problem with drinking and driving and though I have made it through my 23 years relatively unscathed from it, it's becoming so bad that I'm just not gonna be able to get drunk anymore unless my vehicle isn't near me
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 2:15 am
Posted by iliveinabox
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 2:15 am to
You're a brave man FT
Posted by elprez00
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 2:17 am to
Good for you FT. I've got an superintendent that's a good buddy that's 12 years sober. We've talked about it a bunch of times and his perspective on life is pretty amazing. He's an older guy now, and AA has been a huge part of his life and will likely continue to be so. Keep fighting and best of luck to you.

And Sabi, shame on you.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 2:18 am to
Interesting perspective.

I find that I do get fairly regular cravings for alcohol (especially beer) but that I rarely have the desire to keep going after several rounds. I only get "drunk" a couple times a year, usually on gamedays or special occasions like July 4th. Its been a good two years or so since Ive been drunk just for the hell of it.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 2:20 am to
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And Sabi, shame on you.


For what?
Posted by elprez00
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 2:21 am to
For shitting on the guys faith.
Edit: maybe I misunderstood your comment. I'm not normally up this time of night.
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 2:24 am
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 2:23 am to
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For shitting on the guy's faith.


I did no such thing.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 2:30 am to
I consider myself a pretty conservative Christian and I didn't think you said anything wrong
Posted by FT
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 2:32 am to
Fightintiger90@gmail.com

It's a throw away email account. Include your phone number if you like. That's the easiest way to talk. Call me or email me if you'd like for me to call you.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29369 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 2:32 am to
I edited. I'm listening to a crying two year old. It's possible I'm not thinking entirely clearly.
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 2:33 am
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