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re: Alabama places 'failing' label on majority black schools only

Posted on 2/16/16 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 4:17 pm to
This is the type of thread in which I could provide a lot of insight but I know the facts I would post would get be banned so I will stay away. You guys have fun though!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 4:17 pm to
assuming that story is true, that is a sad example of what is now a rarity
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16090 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 4:20 pm to
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Every race on the face of this earth has been through some shite somewhere. Blacks are not the only enslaved race on this planet. Their experience is more recent than most, but it does not make that race special or deserving of reparations or whatever. It is time to accept that and move on.


Blacks enslaved one another for profit in Africa, and they continue to enslave one another for profit in America. The so-called black leaders, such as Sharpton and Jackson on a national stage and local black pastors and politicians, have been taking bribes for decades in order to steer black votes towards a party that continues to suppress them at large.

Do whites take advantage of this now, as they did 200 years ago? You bet your arse.

Hillary Clinton could give a rip about blacks in this nation...but she will buy their votes (through the CBC) and then she will tell them as long as she is in office how oppressed they are and how she will fight for them...and nothing will change except easier access to money and programs that keep them down in the long run.

Racism most assuredly exists...but it is not by way of the white people that get accused of it all the time.

Are there racists rednecks out there. Yep...everywhere. However, they rarely have the influence or capacity to actually negatively affect a black person in actuality. White politicians on the other hand...they have that power. They buy that power from black "leaders" in many cases.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 4:22 pm to
Failing to educate.
Posted by Monkeyboy
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
765 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 4:28 pm to
I grew up in a similar situation as this. There was only one school in the town that everyone went to. I can remember everyone in the school taking the same standardized test. The white kids in the school scored substantially higher than the black kids, and in response there was a lot of talk from the black community about the school being racist. One of my teachers, an elderly black woman that had transferred to my school from the East Baton Rouge Parish school system, one day absolutely went off on the black students in my class. She told them that the reason white kids scored higher then black kids on the test is the same reason the white kids in EBR score higher on tests. The majority of white kids care about there education and actually try and have parents that care while the majority of blacks don't care about there education, don't try, and have parents that don't care. She also stated that if you were embarrassed by your test scores then work harder and quit trying to use racism as an excuse. I thought that was really great advice from the lady, but of course the next day she had to apologize to the black kids in the class because they complained about what she said.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 4:28 pm to
LINK

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You just used an example of white systemic racism. Congrats.
Posted by LSU8654722
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 4:31 pm to
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The only thing that I can think of that will work is take EVERYONES children at the age of 6 and put them in a military style and structured education system, away from their families with only weekend visits, holidays, etc. Let the teachers and disciplinarians do whatever they have to do to get all the kids on the same page. 12 years later you will see the first graduating class of all inclusive kids that were taught by the same teachers, spent the nights in the same dorms, ate at the same lunchroom tables, played sports on the same team, and on and on. This is the ONLY way that people will say that it's fair.


This is what they need to do with those "charter schools". I will more than happily donate to a military based boarding school for the "underprivileged"
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 4:36 pm to
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Color me shocked.



quote:

Color


racist.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262129 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 4:41 pm to
You can't educate people who don't care about education. I imagine black folks with caring parents do better in school.

Schools have become surrogate parents.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 4:43 pm to
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that's disputed

No it's not. Not by scientists
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 4:46 pm to
The problem is NOW systematic with black communities because even if the parents wanted to help (most don't) their kids with homework they can't. Half of them can't read beyond a grade school level. Most of them could not perform a complex math problem if their life depended on it. Dem teachas sposed to be teachin dem kids. Dats dey job and i be damned if I gonna do it. shite! Dey gettin paid fo dat shite!

That last sentence is sadly the mentality of many.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 4:47 pm to
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How much money do these school districts spend per student in comparison to the white ones




Many of the failing schools are among the highest in spending per student. The localities won't support them, but they receive federal and state funding that places most of them in the top 30%-40% of school funding. The most highly funded school in the state is an all black school outside of Montgomery.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262129 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 4:53 pm to
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So you are saying the students' families have zero responsibility in taking interest in their children's education?


It's easier to blame the system and white people than take responsibility for their kids education.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 5:00 pm to
Reposting this because damn. Here is what the Birmingham City Schools did Alabama's 2015 Teacher of the Year when she transferred into an urban school to make a difference.

LINK

Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41241 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 5:01 pm to
Everyone needs to spend a little time in the Black Belt Region of Alabama. It is truly a third world style area. It is cultural.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 5:09 pm to
So she is too lazy to take the required courses to teach? I don't see her argument here. I mean, standards are needed, or you will have anyone with a degree trying to teach. Sounds like she refuses to progress with the times.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424256 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 5:20 pm to
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You just used an example of white systemic racism. Congrats.

a non-white group "winning" in societal factors is "white systemic racism"? do you think whites are that self loathing?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424256 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 5:23 pm to
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I mean, standards are needed

she's nationally certified

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or you will have anyone with a degree trying to teach.

i don't have a teaching certificate to display my qualifications to educated 5th graders

yet

i can teach in any law school and many colleges
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 5:33 pm to
Well, it takes different techniques to teach 5th graders than law school students, just as it takes different techniques to teach 1st and 5 th graders.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83985 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 5:35 pm to
Primary school and secondary school: Where the teachers know teaching techniques but not the subjects.

Postsecondary School: Where the teachers know the subjects but not how to teach them.
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