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re: Airport looking to shift Plank road 1/4 mile

Posted on 2/3/17 at 7:27 am to
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21449 posts
Posted on 2/3/17 at 7:27 am to
They just realigned it not 6 or 8 years ago to extend the runway. Great planning there, BR!
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 2/3/17 at 7:29 am to
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They just realigned it not 6 or 8 years ago to extend the runway. Great planning there, BR!


That was the other runway.
Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
2291 posts
Posted on 2/3/17 at 7:33 am to
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Unless BTR is expecting to get busier and to get bigger airplanes. SOUTHWEST???

This was in a news release several months ago where someone officially asked them to fly to BTR.

When I fly to BTR, I go thru Houston and catch a Delta flight. The plane is 3 seats across, one seat on one side and 2 seats on the other side.

And it is usually cheaper to fly to MSY if I need to rent a car.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 2/3/17 at 7:40 am to
Last time I flew Delta main line service out of BTR, it was on an A320 (3 and 3). Sometimes it is a Boeing 717 or MD88 (3 and 2). I think American sometimes uses an MD88 with the old chrome livery.

Those are probably the largest regularly scheduled passenger jets out of the airport.
This post was edited on 2/3/17 at 8:02 am
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 2/3/17 at 7:53 am to
quote:

Plank

quote:

sketchy


All signs point to yes.
Posted by Shackleford
Muscle Shoals, Alabama
Member since Jul 2010
122 posts
Posted on 2/3/17 at 7:56 am to
The problem is not having enough room at the end of the runway. BTR currently has an EMAS system that cost millions of dollars and has to be replaced every few years. Over the long haul, the cost of relocating Plank Road will be less than continually replacing the EMAS system.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18955 posts
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:01 am to
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The problem is not having enough room at the end of the runway. BTR currently has an EMAS system that cost millions of dollars and has to be replaced every few years. Over the long haul, the cost of relocating Plank Road will be less than continually replacing the EMAS system.


True.

Not shocking but BR never plans for future expansion and the airport is literally boxed in on all sides.
Posted by #1TigerFan
Member since Apr 2005
1665 posts
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:17 am to
This is a waste of money, the statement about passenger safety is being used to scare people. Runway 13 is 7005 feet long and has an EMAS(Engineered Materials Arrestor System) on the end of the runway near Plank Rd. The EMAS is designed to stop an aircraft that runs out of runway. It is made using lightweight concrete that has Styrofoam mixed in that allows it to crush under the weight of an aircraft rolling on it.

The runways at BTR are long enough to handle every aircraft up to a fully loaded 767.

The other relocation was necessary to upgrade the instrument approach system on Runway 22R to a category 2 ILS, which allows aircraft to descend lower and land in low visibility and or low ceiling conditions.
Posted by #1TigerFan
Member since Apr 2005
1665 posts
Posted on 2/3/17 at 9:35 am to
They only have to replace sections that are damaged by an aircraft that can't stop. The system is made up of large blocks that allows for removal of the damaged area. What the airport doesn't like is the periodical maintenance of painting it with sealer to protect the system from the elements. They got gigged during an airport inspection a few years after the EMAS was installed for not keeping it sealed properly.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 2/3/17 at 10:30 am to
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Maybe somebody who knows for sure can chime in but I don't think the current runway is limited to a certain size of aircraft or that any aircraft are being "turned away" from the current configuration.



Every runway has an aircraft size limit.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7546 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:24 pm to
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They only have to replace sections that are damaged by an aircraft that can't stop. The system is made up of large blocks that allows for removal of the damaged area. What the airport doesn't like is the periodical maintenance of painting it with sealer to protect the system from the elements. They got gigged during an airport inspection a few years after the EMAS was installed for not keeping it sealed properly.




A little familiar with this install. They did have some trouble with it years ago when a pickup truck was driven into the pit and jacked up some of it. Twas an expensive repair.

My attitude is if they withstood all of the increased plane traffic post Katrina without incident it seems to me they have the runway capacity they need.

As I stated in an earlier post they are landlocked as F and no matter how many times they move Plank it isn't going to fix it.

The only people that love the Airport and want to keep dumping money into it are the director and all of the ex Attorney's on the board that have sweet, cushy public jobs that pay them much to do very little.

Making do with what you have is something the citizenry have to deal with but not our public sector.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7546 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:25 pm to
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Every runway has an aircraft size limit.


Duly noted.

What aircraft is the BTR airport turning away that are part of daily operations that can't land due to the current runway configuration?
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63260 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:30 pm to
Give the Baton Rouge airport an inch and they take a 1/4 mile.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48836 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:48 pm to
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When Obama brought his shite show down for the floods, I was at BTR when 2 C-130's landed - plus, later Air Force One, a 747, landed - there isn't very many jets larger than those...so I would say that there are planes larger enough landing to reach Plank road.


Obama flew in on that trip in a Boeing 757 not a 747. I don't know if he ever came to BR in the 747- maybe I just don't recall, but I did see George W come in on it. They bring it in light (very little fuel) and W left BR and went to Shreveport to refuel.

And anyone who thinks any plane can't overshoot and land on Plank Road just doesn't know aircraft. Plenty of large jets come in and out of BR.
Posted by Guess
Down The Road
Member since Jun 2009
3768 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:39 pm to
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What aircraft is the BTR airport turning away that are part of daily operations that can't land due to the current runway configuration?


Anything scheduled to land at BTR can do so easily right now, and really if they get Southwest they will be able to handle the 737s without any problems. As mentioned some much larger planes have landed at BTR, but you start to get into restrictions on those aircraft. It's not like BTR will start expecting scheduled 777 or 787 in the foreseeable future so runway extension would probably be a waste especially with MSY so close.

That's not to say I disagree with pushing Plank Rd back, It probably needs to be done. It just needs to be done properly with future potential in mind just in case they have to extend the runway in the future.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 11:23 pm
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