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re: Biker Shootout at the Twin Peaks in Waco, TX
Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:44 am to Agforlife
Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:44 am to Agforlife
Were those clubs involved in the brawl? I don't understand your inability to seperate the peaceful groups from the violent ones that have nothing in common with each other. The only groups being criticized are the violent groups and you know exactly who I am talking about. The "what about these charity and peaceful groups" comments is nothing but trying to deflect attention off of the violent groups.
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 9:46 am
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:49 am to OGtigerfan73
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Were those clubs involved in the brawl? I don't understand your inability to seperate the peaceful groups from the violent ones that have nothing in common. The only groups being criticized are the violent groups and you know exactly who I am talking about. The what about these groups comments is nothing but trying to deflect attention off of the violent groups.
They arrested everybody, even people who rode up after the fact, that is what we are pissed about, like I said earlier and more than once, anyone who committed a crime should be arrested and prosecuted, but please show me where all 170 of these people are all in a brawl or did anything wrong.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:16 am to Agforlife
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They arrested everybody, even people who rode up after the fact, that is what we are pissed about, like I said earlier and more than once, anyone who committed a crime should be arrested and prosecuted, but please show me where all 170 of these people are all in a brawl or did anything wrong.
Exactly. Arrest anyone involved in whatever happened. But don't just round up everybody in the area simply because they're wearing a patch.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:19 am to Darth_Vader
How are they to know who was brawlin and who happened to "ride up after"
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:27 am to CaptainsWafer
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How are they to know who was brawlin and who happened to "ride up after"
Go back a few pages and there are links to news stories about guys who came up after the whole thing happened and they were arrested, then released, then rearrested.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 1:28 pm to Darth_Vader
The Rebel has two updates on this....
Wacko PD Daily Newz
Statements On The Waco Massacre
Wacko PD Daily Newz
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Yesterday, the Texas Department of Public Safety leaked a confidential bulletin to CNN, “the most trusted name in news,” that claims that members of the Bandidos Motorcycle Club are arming themselves with “grenades and C4 explosives” and are plotting to kill “high-ranking law enforcement officials and their families with car bombs.” The bulletin lists possible targets in Waco, Austin, El Paso, Dallas, Corpus Christi and Houston.
The alleged plots have been hatched to retaliate against police who shot “their brothers” as they emerged from the Twin Peaks restaurant last Sunday. The bulletin is based on information from an informant who cites members of the Bandidos and Black Widows Motorcycle Clubs as a source.
The Aging Rebel has been unable to substantiate that any members of the Bandidos were killed last Sunday. This page believes that eight members of the Cossacks Motorcycle Club and one unaffiliated biker were killed. The unaffiliated biker was 65-year-old Jesus Delgado Rodriguez, a former Marine who won a Purple Heart in Vietnam. The official cause of Rodriguez’ death was a “gunshot wound to the head and trunk.” Because of the nature of the fatal wound, this page believes Rodriguez was lying on the ground when he was shot in the head by a long rifle.
The Aging Rebel has also not been able to substantiate the existence of any Black Widows Motorcycle Club in any Southwestern state. The only Black Widows Motorcycle Clubs this page has been able to identify are a fictional motorcycle club in the 1978 Clint Eastwood Comedy Every Which Way But Loose and tongue-in-cheek groups that pay homage to the movie.
Statements On The Waco Massacre
Posted on 5/22/15 at 1:35 pm to Darth_Vader
As usual the only place you'll hear the truth
Posted on 5/22/15 at 1:37 pm to PowerTool
Why did you drop mud-checking? pos biker gheys on TD get upset 
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 5/22/15 at 1:59 pm to ChineseBandit66
Down_voter must have used his manly bikerness to intimidate a mod and get my title changed. :(
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:26 pm to CaptainsWafer
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How are they to know who was brawlin and who happened to "ride up after"
They're supposed to arrest people who are breaking or have broken the law. They're not supposed to arrest everybody.
Same applies to shooting people. As difficult a situation as it may have been for police officers, they are not supposed to shoot anyone who isn't a threat.
This Swanton character seems shady as hell to me.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:28 pm to PowerTool
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Down_voter must have used his manly bikerness to intimidate a mod and get my title changed. :(
There was a rash of threads with the phrase "mudcheck" in the title earlier today and I saw Chicken post something about all threads with that word would be anchored. Guess he changed the title of this one instead of anchoring it.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 2:34 pm to uway
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They're supposed to arrest people who are breaking or have broken the law. They're not supposed to arrest everybody.
Same applies to shooting people. As difficult a situation as it may have been for police officers, they are not supposed to shoot anyone who isn't a threat.
This Swanton character seems shady as hell to me.
Reports on one of the bikers that was killed say not only was he not a member of and MC, he didn't even own a gun. Guy was a decorated Vietnam Vet.
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 5/22/15 at 3:30 pm to Darth_Vader
Feel horrible for the family if he really wasn't in a MC and not a criminal. But just like bad things can happen if you are partying with Crips, bad things can happen if you're partying with Bandidos. Might be wise to avoid knowingly and voluntarily choosing to be in the same place at the same time with those guys.
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 5/22/15 at 3:57 pm to Darth_Vader
Update
LINK
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Previously Waco Police Spokesman W. Patrick Swanton stated 22 members of law enforcement were present prior to the outbreak of the shooting. Including 10 members of the Waco SWAT unit, 2 sergeants, 1 rookie, the Asst. Police Chief and 4 state troopers.
Newly released information today includes the Waco Police stating 14 Waco PD officers were involved in firing shots which killed 9 bike club members and wounded 18 more.
The 14 officers involved in the gun battle are all now on administrative leave, which is standard protocol in officer-involved shootings, Swanton said. (link)
In addition Sgt Swanton previously stated that all of the 170 arrested bikers were known “criminal gang members”. However, a review by the Associated Press of court records finds at least 115 of the 170 had no police records:
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In addition from a lawsuit filed against Twin Peaks by the neighboring restaurant Don Carlos it is claimed the police fired “thousands of rounds” toward the bikers; striking not only bike club members but also Don Carlos customer vehicles.
LINK
Posted on 5/22/15 at 4:00 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:well whatayaknow ol' Harry here's a soldier
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They're supposed to arrest people who are breaking or have broken the law. They're not supposed to arrest everybody.
Same applies to shooting people. As difficult a situation as it may have been for police officers, they are not supposed to shoot anyone who isn't a threat.
This Swanton character seems shady as hell to me.
Reports on one of the bikers that was killed say not only was he not a member of and MC, he didn't even own a gun. Guy was a decorated Vietnam Vet.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 4:27 pm to uway
Imagine if they had applied the same rules of engagement from Twin Peaks to the riots in Baltimore or Ferguson. The country would have had a melt down.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 4:27 pm to AZTarheeel
Big time.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 4:29 pm to AZTarheeel
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if they had applied the same rules of engagement from Twin Peaks to the riots in Baltimore
but those were just high school kids!
Posted on 5/22/15 at 4:30 pm to Gorilla Fingers
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well whatayaknow ol' Harry here's a soldier
I believe he was actually A Marine if I remember correctly, a decorated combat vet marine with a clean record and who was not a member of any "outlaw" MC. At the time of his death he was also one more thing... unarmed.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 4:32 pm to Darth_Vader
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Marine if I remember correctly
that's what our paper said, two tours in VN, PH among other's
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