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Who Would You Trade Up For?
Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:47 am
Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:47 am
The #91 pick + the #27 would only move ya up about 5 picks- not worth figuring. So the question is this...
You add pick #58 + #27 and you could move up to pick #16. The players taken are Clowney, Robinson, Bortles, Bridgewater, Manziel, Carr, Mack, Watkins, Jake Matthews, Ebron, Gilbert, Lewan, Barr, Donald, and Evans. Is there any player available that you would trade the 2nd Rder + #27 to get?
The best likely would be among-
Clinton-Dix
Mosley
Nix
Dennard
Pryor
Jernigan
Lee
Cooks
Beckham
Zack Martin
Shazier
The only one that strikes me is Dennard. If they graded him a day one #1 CB then ya might. Gilbert and he look like a tier higher than the next group of CBs (Verrett, Fuller, Roby). If it was any of the others listed as picked already I could see it for any except the QBs and Donald.
I'm not a fan of moving up but we know they have no hesitancy to do what's needed to get a targeted player.
2013- traded up for John Jenkins
2011- traded up for Ingram
2010- traded in for Tennant
2009- traded up and in for Morstead
2008- traded up for Ellis
2007- traded up for Pittman
Scanning I came across one I never knew...
Saints signed RFA Jason David in 2007 so the Saints gave up a 4th Rd pick. The Colts traded the pick to the 49ers. Who was that? Dashon Goldson. Jason David for Dashon Goldson, yikes!
You add pick #58 + #27 and you could move up to pick #16. The players taken are Clowney, Robinson, Bortles, Bridgewater, Manziel, Carr, Mack, Watkins, Jake Matthews, Ebron, Gilbert, Lewan, Barr, Donald, and Evans. Is there any player available that you would trade the 2nd Rder + #27 to get?
The best likely would be among-
Clinton-Dix
Mosley
Nix
Dennard
Pryor
Jernigan
Lee
Cooks
Beckham
Zack Martin
Shazier
The only one that strikes me is Dennard. If they graded him a day one #1 CB then ya might. Gilbert and he look like a tier higher than the next group of CBs (Verrett, Fuller, Roby). If it was any of the others listed as picked already I could see it for any except the QBs and Donald.
I'm not a fan of moving up but we know they have no hesitancy to do what's needed to get a targeted player.
2013- traded up for John Jenkins
2011- traded up for Ingram
2010- traded in for Tennant
2009- traded up and in for Morstead
2008- traded up for Ellis
2007- traded up for Pittman
Scanning I came across one I never knew...
Saints signed RFA Jason David in 2007 so the Saints gave up a 4th Rd pick. The Colts traded the pick to the 49ers. Who was that? Dashon Goldson. Jason David for Dashon Goldson, yikes!
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:51 am to blueslover
probably nobody. We can't afford the ammo it'd take to move up far enough to where it'd warrant getting a player of that much higher value that would be worth it.
Maybe if a Anthony Barr slips into the mid teens range... that would be it.
Maybe if a Anthony Barr slips into the mid teens range... that would be it.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:56 am to blueslover
If anyone... Dennard
Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:56 am to blueslover
quote:
The only one that strikes me is Dennard
That was the first name that came to mind when I read the title. The only other one being Sammy Watkins, but I doubt we can get high enough anyway.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:56 am to blueslover
Wouldn't move up this draft but hypothetically, I'd target Sammy Watkins or one of the lineman. I like Ebron a lot too but not moving up for him
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:04 am to blueslover
Dennard. That's it. The rest are not needs, and the ones that are may be there when we pick
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:07 am to blueslover
Nobody. I think there will be good value available at 27.
If anything, I hope a QB drops forcing a QB needy team to want to come up and we hold them hostage.
I'd imagine the difference between a late 1st and mid 2nd rounder is negligible when talking about LB, CB or OT.
If anything, I hope a QB drops forcing a QB needy team to want to come up and we hold them hostage.
I'd imagine the difference between a late 1st and mid 2nd rounder is negligible when talking about LB, CB or OT.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:12 am to blueslover
If I can't get Dennard then I'd keep the picks. Only name worth trading up for IMO.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:26 am to blueslover
quote:
Is there any player available that you would trade the 2nd Rder + #27 to get?
No body jumps out but the pool of players is obviously better.
They might do it again because there's not a lot of room for new faces. We need cheap labor, but who the hell do you cut or trade to make room for them? They got rid of most of the players who wouldn't create significant dead money.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 11:31 am
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:31 am to adono
quote:
No body jumps out but the pool of players is obviously better.
This is the right answer. Nobody. With a draft chock full or receivers. I look for some team who wants to do a stupid deal like we did for Ingram and move back, get picks. We are old ina lot of places, need to stockpile picks.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:32 am to blueslover
Safety is no lnoger a need - take out CD/Pryor
LB warrants a playmaker, but giving up a potential starter for someone that might be only a smidge better than hawthorne? Not worth it. Shazier could be found at #27 as well. Shazier and Mosley out
The line is definitely not a NEED, trading up is clearly reaching hard for no reason. take out nix and jernigan
WR is deep in this draft, we could still find a serviceable/potential #1WR in the 2nd round. Keenan Allen went 3rd round(?) last year and look what he did as top dog. Stills was a 5th round and performed well as a #2. Also with #27, we could still get one of those 3 WR left on your board. Take out Lee, Cooks, and Beckham from the list.
RT is sealed with Strief and Armstead has given us enough leeway that we don't need to reach for a LT in the 1st. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd rounder on a project. Take out Martin
Last one..Dennard. Worth giving up a 2nd round for him? Nah. Keeping my arse at #27 or moving to top of the 2nd round.
LB warrants a playmaker, but giving up a potential starter for someone that might be only a smidge better than hawthorne? Not worth it. Shazier could be found at #27 as well. Shazier and Mosley out
The line is definitely not a NEED, trading up is clearly reaching hard for no reason. take out nix and jernigan
WR is deep in this draft, we could still find a serviceable/potential #1WR in the 2nd round. Keenan Allen went 3rd round(?) last year and look what he did as top dog. Stills was a 5th round and performed well as a #2. Also with #27, we could still get one of those 3 WR left on your board. Take out Lee, Cooks, and Beckham from the list.
RT is sealed with Strief and Armstead has given us enough leeway that we don't need to reach for a LT in the 1st. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd rounder on a project. Take out Martin
Last one..Dennard. Worth giving up a 2nd round for him? Nah. Keeping my arse at #27 or moving to top of the 2nd round.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:34 am to blueslover
No one if I had the choice.
Dennard if I had no choice.
Dennard if I had no choice.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:34 am to tiger94gop
quote:
We are old ina lot of places, need to stockpile picks.
I agree with this, but we need to stockpile picks for the next draft. As I mentioned, there's not a lot room to cut many players because of dead money issues. That changes in a big way next season.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 11:35 am
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:37 am to htran90
or I think of it this way
Dennard (or Gilbert) for adding the 2nd
OR
Fuller, Roby, or Verrett with a 2nd
I mocked Fuller so that's my choice...
Fuller & Davante Adams, Landry, or Allen Robinson> Dennard or Gilbert
Dennard (or Gilbert) for adding the 2nd
OR
Fuller, Roby, or Verrett with a 2nd
I mocked Fuller so that's my choice...
Fuller & Davante Adams, Landry, or Allen Robinson> Dennard or Gilbert
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:42 am to blueslover
The way I see it, Matthews/OBJ/Lee + Fuller or Dennard/Gilbert
At this point, I don't think Cooks falls any longer.
At this point, I don't think Cooks falls any longer.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:43 am to blueslover
You're better at this than me. If we keep all 7 picks, you have to make room for them on the roster (or hope to pass them through to the PS). Who can they move or cut to make room on the final 53 that won't kill us on dead money?
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:48 am to blueslover
No one. Draft picks are a valuable commodity to the organization for this draft & future drafts especially since the team lost back to back 2nd rounders the last two drafts. Trading back for additional picks would be the route to go especially with decisions on some pricey veterans on the horizon.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:52 am to adono
quote:
If we keep all 7 picks, you have to make room for them on the roster (or hope to pass them through to the PS). Who can they move or cut to make room on the final 53 that won't kill us on dead money?
said somewhere else, I follow the capology cuz it's necessary not cuz I like it
yo bonethug, answer this man
Posted on 4/9/14 at 12:28 pm to adono
quote:
You're better at this than me. If we keep all 7 picks, you have to make room for them on the roster (or hope to pass them through to the PS). Who can they move or cut to make room on the final 53 that won't kill us on dead money?
whoever loses the position battle. You can't go into the draft thinking we should lower our picks since our roster is currently full. There are many positions that could be upgraded, or else we would've been blowing Denver out in Indi last season.
I personally would rather us trade out of the 1st and pick up an extra high pick in next year's draft... if that opportunity arrives. I would rather us not trade up this season, but if we were to I think the only one it should be for is Dennard
Posted on 4/9/14 at 12:29 pm to Midget Death Squad
quote:
I personally would rather us trade out of the 1st and pick up an extra high pick in next year's draft
frick that.
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