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What could Strief fetch us in a trade?

Posted on 9/27/17 at 4:36 am
Posted by TPecoraro23
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 4:36 am
Yes hes 34, but he still has 2 years left on his deal and has been elite at RT for a couple years now. Could we maybe tag a future 6th-7th rounder and ship him to a team like Sea, Oak, or NYG for something? I think Ramcyzk can get the job done and wouldn't be opposed to ship him for something that could either help us now or get us a decent pick for next years draft.
Posted by drake20
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 4:41 am to
I'd rather keep Strief for the next 2 years and have offensive line depth than have a 6th or 7th rounder
Posted by mindbreaker
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 5:35 am to
at best 3-4 rounder

At worst 6-7 rounder

Think he's in the Ingram category of being more valuable to the team than the compensation we will get back.
Posted by bconne1
Member since Jun 2006
776 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 6:08 am to
Elite?

Elite?

You’re a fan and I get that, but you can’t really think he’s been elite.
Posted by GeauxBayouBengals
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 6:15 am to
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at best 3-4 rounder


Insane. If you found a team desperate enough you might be able to get a conditional 6th or 7th but I doubt he has any trade value at his age.
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 6:25 am to
quote:

Yes hes 34, but he still has 2 years left on his deal and has been elite at RT for a couple years now. Could we maybe tag a future 6th-7th rounder and ship him to a team like Sea, Oak, or NYG for something? I think Ramcyzk can get the job done and wouldn't be opposed to ship him for something that could either help us now or get us a decent pick for next years draft.


Here is his trade value:
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 6:43 am to
Are we suddenly deep at tackle and I missed it?
Posted by CoeJ
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:41 am to
From people I know that know him well, he's on the verge of retirement. Probably why we drafted Ram.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:45 am to
Last year I bet.
And Zach has been a great Saint. Great rep for the team and the area.

Posted by mindbreaker
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:29 am to
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Insane. If you found a team desperate enough you might be able to get a conditional 6th or 7th but I doubt he has any trade value at his age.


Maybe but I didn't think we would get anything higher than a 7th for Stephon Anthony. If a team is desperate and thinks that they are one legit right tackle away from winning it this year or next. They would be willing to give up that.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 8:30 am
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:33 am to
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at best 3-4 rounder


No team (not even an incompetent Cle or formally Oak) would give up more than a 5th and that is really pushing it.

We're better off keeping and using him ourselves. Not like our line has been a model of health to start trading away the good ones.
Posted by bonethug0108
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:36 am to
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higher than a 7th for Stephon Anthony


Age is a HUGE factor in this type of thing. Anthony's age and being a first rounder is why we got what we did. He has shown as recently as last year he can be productive and has plenty of good years left if he pans out.

Strief is on a short ticking clock. No one is giving up higher than a 5th for a guy that might be done after this year or the next.
Posted by mindbreaker
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:40 am to
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Strief is on a short ticking clock. No one is giving up higher than a 5th for a guy that might be done after this year or the next.


I mean I said at best. Meaning that in a perfect all the cards fall right for this to happen scenario. That doesn't mean it's probable. Still don't think it's impossible either.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17118 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:45 am to
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I'd rather keep Strief for the next 2 years and have offensive line depth than have a 6th or 7th rounder


This is probably the right call.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:07 am to
I know, but I do think it's impossible. I don't see any situation any team gives up higher than a 5th. There's this certain barrier teams perceive between a 4th and a 5th and you can look at all the trades involving players and picks and those rounds and see the difference in what a 4th is valued as vs. a 5th.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:11 am to
yeah, to keep him for 2018, you are paying him 5.1 million. only 1.1 guaranteed. He's gone after this year. If you get a 5th for him from a team that's OL Needy and playoff contender. That's logical but i still say no way saints are trading him.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:15 am to
Strief seems like the type that would take a pay cut next year to stay, if he doesn't retire.

But we need him this year and I don't see us trading him and also don't see any team about to give up a pick for him at this point.

What team is needy enough right now and in contention to trade something for a 34 year old RT recovering from a sprained knee?
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:25 am to
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at best 3-4 rounder


LOL no.
Posted by t00f
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Member since Jul 2016
89760 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:38 am to
About the same thing as asking what we can get in trade for Morstead.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7632 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:20 am to
quote:

I know, but I do think it's impossible. I don't see any situation any team gives up higher than a 5th. There's this certain barrier teams perceive between a 4th and a 5th and you can look at all the trades involving players and picks and those rounds and see the difference in what a 4th is valued as vs. a 5th.


Fair enough.

I looked up the Willie Roaf trade to compare. Considering these factors Roaf was 32 (two years younger) and at a more premium spot and a perennial probowler. and the trade value was a 4th which turned into 3rd based on playing time. So yeah 3-4 might be a little high.

and before it's thrown back at me I realize Roaf is a hall of famer and Strief isn't that. But I also Know Strief has been graded as a top 5 RT in the league for the last 4 years.
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