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Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:10 am to JazzyJeff
Hindsight 50/50. Everyone here was fapping when we signed Browner, Byrd and Peterson
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:14 am to GMoney2600
Good one. That was a horrible signing. He almost completely didn't make it on the field except for 1 OT play.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 9:03 am
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:25 am to Peazey
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That was a horrible signing. He almost completely didn't makes it on the field except for 1 OT play.
agreed. But, that 1 OT play was awesome because well... I hate the cowpokes.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:33 am to sicboy
Has anyone said Tebucky?
Or did we trade for him?
D'oh...just realized he was before Payton.
Or did we trade for him?
D'oh...just realized he was before Payton.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 8:36 am
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:56 am to JazzyJeff
Brandon Browner is one of the worst Saints of all-time, and I still think the Byrd signing was worse. 
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:59 am to JazzyJeff
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:04 am to JazzyJeff
I'd say Browner and resigning of Gallete. Byrd underperformed but we at least got a couple years out of play with him. And while he didn't do anything spectacular he wasn't a weakness on the team , but yea, paid way too much. Jason David was a cover 2 guy who came here and played man coverage, just dumb on our part.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 9:05 am
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:06 am to windshieldman
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Byrd underperformed but we at least got a couple years out of play with him.
well.. he was on the team for a few years...
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:08 am to MorbidTheClown
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well.. he was on the team for a few years
I think he was at least average with us. He babysat some bad CBs while he was here. You never saw QBs look his way much or get beat deep. We are much better off with Williams of course. I agree Byrd didn't earn his paycheck here though.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:30 am to windshieldman
quote:I think you're only remembering year 3. Years 1 and 2 were a dumpster fire.
I think he was at least average with us. He babysat some bad CBs while he was here. You never saw QBs look his way much or get beat deep. We are much better off with Williams of course. I agree Byrd didn't earn his paycheck here though.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:34 am to LooseCannon22282
Iirc all the ones you mention for 2011 were minimum salaries or close to it though. So nothing that hurts if you miss.
2012 was by far the worst year. We signed Grubbs, Lofton, Hawthorne, and Bunkley all to pretty sizeable contracts (some more than others), and then continued to roll the salary forward on them instead of just cutting bait.
Bunkley was good when healthy, but that wasn't often. Grubbs had one really good year, 2 so so years, and a bad year. Lofton was alright but far from the playmaker he was being bad to be, and was a liability in coverage. Hawthorne had one good stretch (can't even say it was a full year) and some other nice moments but was largely a disappointment.
This FA, along with Bounty Gate that year, is what really set the team back the past few seasons. Add in some subpar drafts over that period and more FA misses in the following years and we should have seen it coming.
2012 was by far the worst year. We signed Grubbs, Lofton, Hawthorne, and Bunkley all to pretty sizeable contracts (some more than others), and then continued to roll the salary forward on them instead of just cutting bait.
Bunkley was good when healthy, but that wasn't often. Grubbs had one really good year, 2 so so years, and a bad year. Lofton was alright but far from the playmaker he was being bad to be, and was a liability in coverage. Hawthorne had one good stretch (can't even say it was a full year) and some other nice moments but was largely a disappointment.
This FA, along with Bounty Gate that year, is what really set the team back the past few seasons. Add in some subpar drafts over that period and more FA misses in the following years and we should have seen it coming.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 9:41 am
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:40 am to JazzyJeff
Victor Butler
Jairus Byrd
Erik Lorig
Champ Bailey
CJ Spiller
Brandon Browner
James Laurinaitis
Jason David
Kevin Kaesviharn
Olin Kreutz
Jairus Byrd
Erik Lorig
Champ Bailey
CJ Spiller
Brandon Browner
James Laurinaitis
Jason David
Kevin Kaesviharn
Olin Kreutz
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:43 am to MorbidTheClown
Butler and Spencer were cheap contracts.
I'll give you Bailey because I think it cost us $1.5-2 mil and he didn't play. Not a ton of money, but he didn't even stay to mentor anyone.
I'll give you Bailey because I think it cost us $1.5-2 mil and he didn't play. Not a ton of money, but he didn't even stay to mentor anyone.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:45 am to bonethug0108
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Butler and Spencer were cheap contracts.
true. But, did either even see the field in a game? I honestly can't remember if they did.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:16 am to MorbidTheClown
Butler never played a down. But, Ingram hurt him. I don’t see how that’s on CSP.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:22 am to Sparkplug#1
Are these Payton or Loomis FA blunders?
Letting Sproles go should be up there. Also Malcom Jenkins.
Letting Sproles go should be up there. Also Malcom Jenkins.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:34 am to Saskwatch
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Kevin Kaesviharn
Was gonna mention him. Not in the same realm as Byrd (due to contract) or Browner (due to being terrible) but still really, really bad. I would put him about the same level as Jason David - they never really fit the defensive scheme.
Not re-signing Sproles and Malcom Jenkins are probably the two non-signing mistakes I can think of. Losing Scott Fujita to the Browns maybe another?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:34 am to htran90
I would put Jairus Byrd in the bad luck signings. It was universally praised as a great signing at the time. It's real easy to look at things in hindsight and say it was a bad move.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:24 am to SuperSoakher
Byrd had been the highest rated safety on PFF like two years in a row when we signed him. That deal was universally praised.
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