re: We are 5 picks in, no pass rusher

Who the hell said that?

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I was told there were plenty of picks left.

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Well we ended up getting 2....

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was also told we didn't need a pass rusher because we have Cam Jordan and that was good enough.

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Ah, so you can't read.

You said the Saints don't have A pass rusher. That means that you didn't think Cam Jordan was a pass rusher.

Idiot

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But EVERYONE says you put a premium on pass rush, so it would only make sense if the talent level was equal you would pick them first.

Being that they weren't picked first I have to think the teams disagreed with the media on how good these pass rushers really are.

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Pass rushers & DBs, yea. Premium positions.


The rushers weren't perfect which is why they were always set to go from about 40-70. Doesn't mean they couldn't immediately help or didn't bring value.

I think the 6th Rd pick is pretty much an admission that they wish they could have added numbers to our DEs earlier

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Possibly. I don't think they agreed though

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Well there is no doubt they disagreed. Doesn't mean it was right in the end.

4 guys flew off the board in the next 9 picks after 76. Not sure they expected that but those talented guys weren't going to drop another 30 spots,

Also talking of rushers and Taco in particular, the Cowboys took him at 28 and then admitted they reached and had a second round grade, but no one would be left after him so they reached for him.

Payton said they had 4 guys pegged at 32, Tak, Foster, Rammy, and another player still on the board heading into day two. So clearly they didn't see Taco as a first round talent either.

So the top rushers were seen as Garrett (no shot), Thomas (no shot), Barnett (took CB), and Tak (went before 32).

Outside of those 4 none of the others were clear upgrades. Taco may have been an upgrade (borderline on that).

So unless we went DE at 11 (or traded up from 32 which they said was too costly with wanting to keep the picks this year) we were not going to have a clear improvement on the position.

We still got a guy that is near the level of all the other guys people wanted (myself included) at 42. Hell I was even willing to reach for Willis at 32 because I also had DE blinders on.

Yea I'm curious to see how they use A2. I think he could bring some rush ability. He's a really good athlete with good side

I think we've added a good bit of versatility for our Linebackers outside of Klein, who will play in the middle.

I'm most excited about the Vaccaro and Williams combo tbh

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Gotta say people complained for years about our perceived reaching and said we need value. This draft was super value.

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I hope the picks pan out like every year but 2017 has the same traits as many of our previous drafts

Our picks for the most part have always been need-value based, like Lattimore, sprinkled in with luxury picks, like Ram, sprinkled in with trading up to nab a skill position player like Kamara.

I don't remember a lot of reaches. Just what turned out to be poor, poor evaluations

Shella or whatever his name is

so far, so good