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This is why we don't need to take players with marijuana problems

Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:20 pm
Posted by LSU1215
Monroe
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:20 pm
LINK /

Dion Jordan for Dolphins suspended for 2015 season

Ray and Gregory might be great players but you can't make a difference if your not on the field. I wanted us to draft Gregory but I rather we stay away from these type of players.
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 12:22 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:24 pm to
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Dolphins defensive end Dion Jordan, the No. 3 overall selection two years ago, will be suspended for the 2015 regular season after a positive substance-abuse test, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported Tuesday.




I don't think that has anything to do with weed. The weed failures are a lot lower now.

And I can point to Browner holding the Lombardi as a reason to take some risks
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:35 pm to
Cheating to win (what Browner did) is not the same as smoking for fun. See Ricky Williams and what pot did to his career. He had the potential to be one of the greatest backs of all time but instead only enjoyed a few good seasons before flaming out.

I have no issues with weed and have smoked plenty myself, but if you're that fricking stupid that you can't stay off weed throughout the draft process than you are too fricking stupid to play for my team.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:40 pm to
But we'll take the GM who made this move. Jeff Ireland gave up the #12 and #42 pick for Dion Jordan (3 career sacks). BOOM
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:44 pm to
Thankfully he doesn't call the shots
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:47 pm to
Because weed makes you do PEDs?
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:02 pm to
Dion Jordan.

Talk about a horrible pick.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:02 pm to
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Cheating to win (what Browner did) is not the same as smoking for fun. See Ricky Williams and what pot did to his career. He had the potential to be one of the greatest backs of all time but instead only enjoyed a few good seasons before flaming out.

I have no issues with weed and have smoked plenty myself, but if you're that fricking stupid that you can't stay off weed throughout the draft process than you are too fricking stupid to play for my team.




Browner has also failed weed test(s) before

This is a suspension for performance enhancing drugs too
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 1:08 pm
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:14 pm to
I don't care if players smoke weed or even test positive for it. It's when they are on the verge of getting suspended and still do it or do it out in public that is the problem.

And a guy that can't hold off smoking throughout the draft process seems way more likely to be a guy that will get suspended for it or get into legal trouble over it.

Browner was never suspended for weed iirc. He only got suspended for PEDs. I don't care that he did or does smoke. I only care that he is smart enough not to get suspened over it.

And my rant was more about not want I us to take Gregory or Ray. I know the op was misguided.
Posted by PurpleDrank18
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2011
4508 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:17 pm to
I think Jordan could have been successful if the Dolphins weren't idiots and didn't draft him to the wrong scheme. He was a 34 OLB plugged into a 43 base.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:25 pm to
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Because weed makes you do PEDs?


This.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:43 pm to
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Browner was never suspended for weed iirc. He only got suspended for PEDs. I don't care that he did or does smoke. I only care that he is smart enough not to get suspened over it.




That is what I had originally thought too, but I don't think it is correct

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Browner had tweeted Tuesday night that he has been reinstated by the league after serving more than 2½ months of a one-year suspension for marijuana use.


LINK

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It's when they are on the verge of getting suspended and still do it or do it out in public that is the problem.


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Browner was tested roughly 200 times while back in the league, but did not have a positive result until very recently, when he had a small amount of marijuana in his system, according to a source. However, had he not been escalated to Stage 3 for his missed tests when out of the NFL -- if he was in Stage 2, for instance -- two years of clean tests would have be enough to get him out of the program entirely.




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And my rant was more about not want I us to take Gregory or Ray. I know the op was misguided.



Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38763 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 3:32 pm to
always draft the weed guy
always

great value generally and weed is very seldom a career killing issue
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 3:59 pm to
I guess I was mistaken then.

I thought he was another of Seattle's PED violators. Better keep his nose clean because we're relying on him.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30110 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 4:06 pm to
Josh Gordon says otherwise.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38763 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 4:27 pm to
josh Gordon is an outlier
a huge percentage of athletes in all pro leagues smoke
one or two of them wash out because of it

always draft the weed guy
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28393 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 4:30 pm to
That's a ton of NFL players. Only the dumb ones get caught
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30110 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:21 pm to
I was kidding, I say draft the weed guy if the writing on the way says he won't get caught.

Gregory is gonna be caught...

I'm more worried about his weight issues though...235 at the combine, 238 at the pro day, and reports now say he's under 230. worries me.
Posted by The Goat
Right here, Chief
Member since Nov 2006
2801 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 6:47 pm to
Warren Sapp liked the hippie lettuce
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