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This is the most thorough write-up I've seen on this year's QB draft class

Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:16 am
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:16 am
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1) Malik Willis, Liberty ROUND 1

It's a projection, and the size (6-foot 1/2, 219 pounds) isn't ideal, but Willis' cannon arm, running ability and overall playmaking skills give him the nod here over Kenny Pickett. "There's really one guy that's got true NFL traits," an AFC quarterbacks coach said. "[Willis] can run. He can throw it. It's a once-every-couple-years type of arm -- it's not quite Josh Allen I don't think, but it's damn close. He can create plays. For a 6-foot-tall guy, he doesn't look small, because [he has a thick build]. Good person. Smart. He's an energy-giving type of guy."

Said an AFC general manager: "To me, he's the No. 1 guy in the class. And for whatever people want to talk about in terms of readiness or all this other stuff -- it was the same thing with Josh Allen, it was the same thing with Patrick Mahomes. I think people are a little short-sighted with that kid." A transfer from Auburn, Willis made the most of his two seasons starting for the Flames, putting up 6,929 total offensive yards (sixth in FBS) and accounting for 74 total touchdowns (47 passing, 27 rushing). "He's the only one with the talent level that deserves [to go Round 1]," an NFC coordinator said. "Now, there's some holes in his game. [But] to me, he's a better prospect than Trey Lance was a year ago and a better prospect than Justin Fields was a year ago." Other scouts and coaches echoed the comparisons to Lance and Fields, who went No. 3 overall to San Francisco and No. 11 to Chicago, respectively -- they were the third and fourth QBs taken in that draft, both after trades up involving future first-round picks.

"If I had to take a quarterback this year," an AFC coordinator said, "I would take Willis, because at least he's got the talent to get himself out of a jam when things don't look pretty." No doubt, there will be a learning curve for Willis, who, like many in this class, played in a college offense that doesn't require a lot of bandwidth from the QB. Much of his production comes off go-balls and scramble drills. And Willis' athletic ability gave him an out many times against a lower level of competition. (Liberty is an FBS independent.)

"He can unleash power (with his lower body). He's got a great arm," an NFC quarterbacks coach said. "But when you watch him play, I don't see a lot of the things we would ask him to do. He's played two top-25 programs in the last two years: One was Coastal Carolina, which he beat, and Ole Miss, which he lost to. Against those two teams, he had zero touchdown passes, he had five touchdown runs, and threw five picks. That concerns me. [But] he's got this bounce in his step, he's got this smile. Hey, this kid can be electric, and when he is electric, the dudes in the locker room are going to go to him. This is the epitome of a boom-or-bust pick." Willis finished his college career as a 62.8 percent passer for 5,176 yards, 48 touchdowns and 18 interceptions, including 12 last season. "Malik obviously is super talented," an NFC scout said. "I just have issues with his processing and the instincts. He knows his O-line's bad, but he still just stands there. He's not feeling [rushers] coming up on him and really escaping and getting the ball downfield. There's flash plays. There's a lot of bad stuff. He's definitely a project, and anybody taking him really high is going to have to fully commit to that."

they break down the top 15 QB prospects here at nfl.com
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:23 am to
I remember reading a few mock drafts last year for 2022 and Howell at the time was the #1 projected pick for many of them. As was Spencer Rattler.

Amazing what a year can do.

Personally I’m okay with Willis or Pickett at 19.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 11:24 am
Posted by NOSHAU
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:32 am to
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I remember reading a few mock drafts last year for 2022 and Howell at the time was the #1 projected pick for many of them. As was Spencer Rattler.

Amazing what a year can do.

Personally I’m okay with Willis or Pickett at 19.


I would doubt either would be available that late, but crazy things could happen.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:38 am to
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I would doubt either would be available that late, but crazy things could happen.



All the mock drafts I've seen have been all over the place. Willis has gone as high as #2 to as low as #32. Gonne be a fun night
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:43 am to
Rattler was purely name. He wasn't that good.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:46 am to
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Willis finished his college career as a 62.8 percent passer for 5,176 yards, 48 touchdowns and 18 interceptions, including 12 last season.


Is he that low because he’s constantly trying to go deep, has horrible weapons, or just isn’t that accurate? I’d imagine a combination of some sort but those aren’t fantastic numbers against lower level competition.

Accuracy IMO is the best predictor of long term qb success provided they at least have a capable nfl level arm. I feel like we’ve seen mobile qbs take the nfl storm but then come back to earth a bit when figured out somewhat. Then you have the dilemma on how to pay them as they age.

I can’t say I wouldn’t be really intrigued and excited if we grabbed him though, especially if we developed an offensive system based off of a power running game/play action that didn’t ask him to do too much too early.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 11:54 am
Posted by TigerDeacon
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:58 am to
Willis lost to ULM this year.
Posted by LSUPilot07
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:06 pm to
If Corral or Howell are there in the 2nd you take them but they won’t make it to the mid 2nd where we are. Besides if they were going to take a QB in the 2nd that’s a big investment that you obviously see as your future starter so it would benefit the draft capital you would have to give up to trade back into the bottom of the 1st so you get that 5th year option. I just don’t see us doing that worth Jamie signed for 2 years on a cheap deal for a QB so you can wait until next year to find your QB in a better class but you’d have to pull another trade to get a 1st round pick back.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 12:08 pm
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:10 pm to
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Personally I’m okay with Willis or Pickett at 19.


Willis will be gone, and if Pickett’s still there, there’s a reason for it. We’d have to package our 2 firsts to move up for Willis, who probably wouldn’t be ready to play until ‘23 or ‘24. I don’t think we have the roster to afford to be able to do that. Or at least it doesn’t appear to be the plan to punt even 1 year, much less 2.

Now, if they’re in love it’s him and think he’s a future stud, then go get him. You don’t cross your fingers and hope that guy falls to you. Payton seems to get credit for identifying Mahomes and being 1 pick from drafting him. I think it’s the worst mistake he made in New Orleans. If a guy is the highest rated QB you’ve ever evaluated, you go get that motherfricker. You don’t give the Chiefs or anybody else a chance to jump you. That said, I doubt they’re in love with Willis, but with us acquiring that 2nd 1st, pretty much anything is on the table. As much as we’d love it—and a lot expect it—staying at 16 and 19 and crossing our fingers that a starting LT and WR are still there for us doesn’t seem like this franchise’s MO at all. Regardless, Thursday should be a lot of fun. I expect a great melting on here.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:18 pm to
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Willis lost to ULM this year.


He played them by himself?
Posted by BRL79
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:34 pm to
They want to give credit for wins, you have to talk about losses too
Posted by bilblues
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 1:03 pm to
Thanks for this. My takeaway from the article is that Willis has the biggest upside and that if things break right and he continues to develop, he would be really special. That's a big if.

The consensus from these insiders on the other top prospects is that they project to be pretty good quarterbacks. Mid-tier to bottom half of the league starters.

I'd rather ride with Jameis and Dalton and add first-round WR and OL talent than spend draft capital on a QB who probably won't be better then the guys we already have.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 2:03 pm to
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Is he that low because he’s constantly trying to go deep, has horrible weapons, or just isn’t that accurate? I’d imagine a combination of some sort but those aren’t fantastic numbers against lower level competition.

Accuracy IMO is the best predictor of long term qb success provided they at least have a capable nfl level arm. I feel like we’ve seen mobile qbs take the nfl storm but then come back to earth a bit when figured out somewhat. Then you have the dilemma on how to pay them as they age.

I can’t say I wouldn’t be really intrigued and excited if we grabbed him though, especially if we developed an offensive system based off of a power running game/play action that didn’t ask him to do too much too early.
When did 63% completion rate become "low?" Given the OLine and talent around him, I would not think tht is terrible. Jackson was 57% and Allen 56% (heck, Brees and Russell Wilson were 61%)
Posted by lepdagod
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 3:20 pm to
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Accuracy IMO is the best predictor of long term qb success


That depends especially if you evaluating accuracy from college tape…
Posted by BRL79
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 3:42 pm to
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My takeaway from the article is that Willis has the biggest upside and that if things break right and he continues to develop, he would be really special. That's a big if.

Agreed. My takeaway is that his biggest upside is potential. I'm not a fan of potential in the first round, I'm a fan of polish in the first round.
Posted by jkylejohnson
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 3:51 pm to
I hope to God we don’t draft a qb in round 1. This isn’t the year. I’d like to give Jameis the best chance we can to succeed.
Posted by Matt225
St. George
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:01 pm to
Sorry not when there are almost guarantee starts in positions of need would I reach on QB in round 1.
Posted by Bumble Bee
Northwest, La
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:32 pm to
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I remember reading a few mock drafts last year for 2022 and Howell at the time was the #1 projected pick for many of them. As was Spencer Rattler.

Amazing what a year can do.

Personally I’m okay with Willis or Pickett at 19.


OT/WR with 16 & 19

trade up in the 2nd Rd grab Howell. He lost a lot of weapons last year.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:56 pm to
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Agreed.

My takeaway is that his biggest upside is potential.

I'm not a fan of potential in the first round, I'm a fan of polish in the first round.


Agreed
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29298 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:57 pm to
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He played them by himself?



No, but remind me of a first round qb that had a loss that bad the year before he was drafted.
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