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re: "The Introduction to the End in New Orleans" Grantland Piece
Posted on 7/27/15 at 11:53 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 7/27/15 at 11:53 am to Lester Earl
A quote from another article linked within that one:
Talk about foreshadowing
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Galette said he has always worked hard, but he acted like he was special once he became a successful player, rather than leading by example.
Talk about foreshadowing
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Posted on 7/27/15 at 11:57 am to Lester Earl
they act like extending brees is a crazy option, no, its just the most realistic option that can manuever cap space but we goign to act like drew staying with payton another year or two is just crazy shite.
Hawthorne, Bunkley... an aging Colston, Ellerbe, even Morstead, none of these guys are critical pieces in 2016 for our roster. Strief cut will save some money assuming he's not starting. The saints will continue to have many options.
Yes it sucks this Junior extension didn't work out because of his immaturity, volatility and hostile nature to t he club. Oh fricking well... Maybe its on the entire organization for not recognizing it sooner but i rather take the cap penalties than the penalty of him still being a saint.
Hawthorne, Bunkley... an aging Colston, Ellerbe, even Morstead, none of these guys are critical pieces in 2016 for our roster. Strief cut will save some money assuming he's not starting. The saints will continue to have many options.
Yes it sucks this Junior extension didn't work out because of his immaturity, volatility and hostile nature to t he club. Oh fricking well... Maybe its on the entire organization for not recognizing it sooner but i rather take the cap penalties than the penalty of him still being a saint.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 12:02 pm to Lester Earl
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How does loomis still have apologists like you ?
Where am I apologizing for Loomis? Just because I am not full of hatred with everything he does, doesn't mean I agree with everything. There isn't a single GM out there (w/ more than 1 year experience) that has not written a bad contract, or had a contract to come back and bite him. Additionally, Loomis isn't the one making all of the decisions. There are scouts/coaches that give him the information about who to sign. Of course he has a lot to say about how much, for how long, and how to structure it; but I doubt he went out there and just decided to sign Junior to an extension without input. And, I'm sure SP & Benson (as do other coaches & owners) gave him some ideas of what they feel the value of the player is.
I simply pointed out that had the team, including ML, decided to wait until the end of the contracts for all players; there would be articles out there bashing the team for not extended players soon enough that out perform their contracts (there were plenty of those for Brees, Colston & Jimmy).
And, ML would have had a lot of grief for waiting to sign these players and either being forced to use a tag, pay top dollar, or letting one of them walk. Where is the apologist in this? Or am I simply an apologist because I'm not one of your sheep that just hates on the GM because he doesn't sign the players I want?
Posted on 7/27/15 at 12:09 pm to Weekend Warrior79
So loomis is above all criticism? You just made about 5 excuses for him. You're the definition of an apologist,
Posted on 7/27/15 at 12:09 pm to Lester Earl
Entire article seemed like filler for Barnwell to write a bleacher report like list of "teams Brees could end up" while not stooping to bleacher report level.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 12:23 pm to Lester Earl
Saints from office and player personnel decisions work as a cohesive unit with Loomis Payton and maybe a bit Ireland now among other smaller voices. Loomis isn't making the executive personnel decisions on players, he does as unit wishes.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 12:28 pm to Lester Earl
Might be a rough couple seasons ahead
Posted on 7/27/15 at 12:30 pm to Chad504boy
Chad, I'm going to need you read this article
Posted on 7/27/15 at 12:33 pm to Lester Earl
I was always under the impression Payton picked the players and Loomis just bean counted to make it work.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 12:45 pm to Lester Earl
Did, not impressed I made comments about them
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:03 pm to Lester Earl
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isn't that his 1 redeeming quality? do you still think he is a master?
I don't think Loomis was making the personnel decisions. Every decision to kick the can down the road was done intentionally with full knowledge that at some point, it was going to come due.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:20 pm to St Augustine
I've read a lot of Barnwell's stuff, and I cannot remember him ever saying anything positive about the Saints. So not surprised he turns getting rid of a problem player into something wrong for this team.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:58 pm to Lester Earl
It really is about to crash and burn. Even if we're saved by a mediocre NFC South and win the division at 9-7, all of the signs are there.
Payton hasn't been a top coach since 2011 and this feels like Haslett's Saints circa 2003/2004. Too much drama.
Payton hasn't been a top coach since 2011 and this feels like Haslett's Saints circa 2003/2004. Too much drama.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:04 pm to Rowdy Roscoe
Barnwell is by far the worst major writer on Grantland. I hate him, his writing style, his sense of humor, and his horrible podcast with Mays.
But I have to agree with him here - the team appears to be a mess. At least they're trying to deal with it (benching one suspect, trading another suspect, cutting Galette, trading Jimmah the poooooos), etc.
Better to keep churning than to let the dead weight drag you down.
But I have to agree with him here - the team appears to be a mess. At least they're trying to deal with it (benching one suspect, trading another suspect, cutting Galette, trading Jimmah the poooooos), etc.
Better to keep churning than to let the dead weight drag you down.
This post was edited on 7/27/15 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:09 pm to SirWinston
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the team appears to be a mess.
its only a mess when you are not a part of knowledge of the plan. He sits there and mentions a bunch of possibilities to remedy situation but dismisses them at same time... like why are they dismissed when they are logical means of moving forward...
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:10 pm to Lester Earl
Lester gonna Lester
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:19 pm to TigerBait1127
Well to be fair the FO and coaches not just Loomis share all this BS. And lester is right for calling "Loomising" on this one. Loomis gets credit around here and should get some blame as well.
I don't know what it is of late with us and big contracts on DE's not panning out.
I don't know what it is of late with us and big contracts on DE's not panning out.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:20 pm to goatmilker
I have no problem with Loomis getting blame. He deserves some if it here.
However, Lester is a broken record on Loomis and absolutely despises him
However, Lester is a broken record on Loomis and absolutely despises him
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:26 pm to SirWinston
Barnwell also completely ignores the fact that the salary cap continues to rise on a yearly basis. I'm pretty sure Loomis is factoring the steady rise into all of the Saints contractual decisions. It's set to rise significantly again as the revenue of the new television deal kicks in.
LINK
But hey, let's bash Loomis some more. It's obvious he doesn't have a clue to what he is doing.
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When the salary cap jumped from $123 million to $133 million last week, some suggested it could move to $140 million in 2015 and $150 million in 2016.
Think higher.
One source with knowledge of the process (but not the same source who was on the money — pun lame but intended — when providing info about the 2014 cap) tells PFT that the cap could spike to $145 million in 2015 and a whopping $160 million in 2016.
A large jump wouldn’t be a major surprise. While the new TV deals kick in this year (including the recent Thursday night CBS simulcast), the revenue increase won’t hit the cap until next year.
LINK
But hey, let's bash Loomis some more. It's obvious he doesn't have a clue to what he is doing.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:29 pm to NOFOX
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Should have made Graham play on the tag or at the very least used roster bonuses instead of so much upfront money if you knew you were willing to part with him.
Thats my only thing, if the organization thought Graham was expendable at all, then why not force him to play under the tag
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