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re: Stop watching NFL??
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:00 pm to PuddinheadSr
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:00 pm to PuddinheadSr
quote:This is what I've noticed.
Also, way to lecture the veteran on what it means to love his country.
I've seen a bunch of posters on this site "standing up" for veterans on this issue, but I've yet to see an actual veteran post that they felt offended or attacked by the protests.
I've only seen the opposite.
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:01 pm to Hoodoo Man
There is no excuse. They just downvote like bitches knowing they have no valid argument. Lol
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:02 pm to Roaring Cowboy
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The players that kneeled should have to sleep in the 9th ward for like 2 weeks
It can't be About Race, because in America, nothing is ever About Race.
(Thanks to Charles Pierce of Esquire, late of The Boston Globe Sports staff, Sports Illustrated, etc.)
By the way, I slept in the 9th Ward for the first 24 years of my life back when the murder rate was approximately twice what it is now, and it really wasn't all that bad...so there's that.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:14 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:
but I've yet to see an actual veteran post that they felt offended or attacked by the protests.
I'm also pretty sure you've yet to see an NFL "protester" speak of a beef with the military. If you can't defend what someone is protesting (lack of balanced treatment for African-Americans from certain members of the law enforcement community, and a so-far half-hearted at best effort to ensure that these certain members are held accountable for not behaving as professionally and honorably as the vast majority of the law enforcement community behaves), then substitute something that you can defend (a lack of respect for the members of our military) even if that's not what's being protested.
It's known as a "straw man", and very useful to toss up as red meat for those already predisposed to see what they want to see.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:17 pm to PuddinheadSr
quote:I find it strange that you're agreeing with me, while at the same time I get the sense that you're talking down to me.
It's known as a "straw man", and very useful to toss up as red meat for those already predisposed to see what they want to see.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:20 pm to Hoodoo Man
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I find it strange that you're agreeing with me, while at the same time I get the sense that you're talking down to me
If I'm giving you that impression, I heartily apologize, because my intentions could not be farther from that.
Just my opinion, but you're certainly not the one throwing up the "straw man" in this argument. In fact, your post pointed out exactly the same thing.....just probably not as obnoxiously as my own.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:25 pm to Mad Dogg
I look on this board and I see mixed remarks and emotions regarding the recent peaceful protests. I spent two tours in Iraq and I fought for those rights. I am also a black man who grew up in Louisiana. I understand the reasons for the protests for equality. I'm also proud to say that I didn't vote for the leader that constantly tries to separate our nation. The NFL is a platform for the players to peaceful protest inequality and police violence in African Americans. These players visit poverty stricken communities and promote change. Most African Americans have been protesting for years without a national platform. These protests fall on def ears. Racism, inequality and violence is at an all-time high and it's sad. It's sad that so many people have sacraficed their lives for freedom, justice and equal rights only to have it taken away. I support the Saints as well as the entire NFL for exercising the rights that I along with many Americans fought for. I will continue to watch and I will continue to support peaceful protests for equal rights.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:36 pm to bayouboy318
quote:
I look on this board and I see mixed remarks and emotions regarding the recent peaceful protests. I spent two tours in Iraq and I fought for those rights. I am also a black man who grew up in Louisiana. I understand the reasons for the protests for equality. I'm also proud to say that I didn't vote for the leader that constantly tries to separate our nation. The NFL is a platform for the players to peaceful protest inequality and police violence in African Americans. These players visit poverty stricken communities and promote change. Most African Americans have been protesting for years without a national platform. These protests fall on def ears. Racism, inequality and violence is at an all-time high and it's sad. It's sad that so many people have sacraficed their lives for freedom, justice and equal rights only to have it taken away. I support the Saints as well as the entire NFL for exercising the rights that I along with many Americans fought for. I will continue to watch and I will continue to support peaceful protests for equal rights.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:39 pm to Bayou
Appearing at a protest while you are in military service was actually a violation of the UCMJ while I was in service. So no. I have since becoming a private citizen. Private citizen vs. Public servant. Apples to Oranges. What public service have you performed, and if you did were you allowed to protest?
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:47 pm to IlxPirata
Ignore him, he's not very bright...yet he thinks he has the right to tell you how you should feel...i'm pretty sure he was one of the dolts who were going to be cowboys fans after yesterday...that didn't work out too well for them either.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:15 pm to bayouboy318
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I look on this board and I see mixed remarks and emotions regarding the recent peaceful protests. I spent two tours in Iraq and I fought for those rights
I'm happy someone already beat me to this, but....thank you for your service in defending the Constitution.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:16 pm to Mad Dogg
quote:Yep. You pull for the uniform, not who's wearing it.
I'm not happy with all that is going on either, but players could protest in my living room, and the POTUS call me and bash me every commercial break, but I'm gonna keep on watching and rooting for the Saints.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:16 pm to pussywillows
Thanks. Truth > Bayouboy318. I just don't get the problem with men standing up for what they believe.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:18 pm to partywiththelombardi
So you have no back bone
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:21 pm to Ponchy Tiger
I have backbone by the spades if you're talking to me. 5 minutes alone.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:05 am to Mad Dogg
All of the people who says they are protesting, are the casual fans anyway.
Of course, casual fans make up a large percentage of the no ratings as well.
Of course, casual fans make up a large percentage of the no ratings as well.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:08 am to Mad Dogg
I wonder, does it bother fans to know that for maybe 65% of athletes, they are not standing to be super patriotic and thinking of all the great troops who have served this country.
But rather, they are standing because they were told to stand, and don't have a reason to do otherwise. Meanwhile they are thinking nothing about the mulitary, or the country. Instead, the only thing on their mind is this game they are about to play.
But rather, they are standing because they were told to stand, and don't have a reason to do otherwise. Meanwhile they are thinking nothing about the mulitary, or the country. Instead, the only thing on their mind is this game they are about to play.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:17 am to QJenk
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Meanwhile they are thinking nothing about the mulitary
Cap, if you think I have to think about the military to be patriotic, or to love my country, or that I'm somehow not patriotic if I don't blindly fall for the "America, love it or leave it" crap....well, God bless you, but we've totally different ideas about what it means to be an American.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:25 am to PuddinheadSr
Maybe we do havr different ideals, idk. But that is not my point. My point is for the majority of players, they are not standing to be patriotic or pay respect. But rather only standing because they were told and everyone else is doing it.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:51 am to QJenk
Got you. I'll agree, and actually think you're probably a little low. But I'm not of the opinion that that's a particularly bad thing. Can't say I'm especially partial to the showy, "I'm more patriotic that you because I'm hugging a flag" displays that seem to pass for love of country these days.
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