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re: Rapoport: Payton & Manziel discuss return to football

Posted on 3/24/17 at 4:50 pm to
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29999 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 4:50 pm to
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He was almost a 70% passer in college.


completion percentage says nothing about the fact that he wasn't throwing to the designed player that was open, he just "created" a busted play by not being a pocket QB and then "found an open guy" to salvage a situation he unnecessarily created.

no one is saying he didn't make things happen in college, but evidence is clear he wasn't able to run the plays as they were designed to be run and do what he should have done, which was not leave the pocket until you go through all your progression reads first.

Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14733 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 7:24 pm to
I think him being a locker room distraction is really the only reason to not bring him in during training camp. IMO his throwing ability is not far off from where Cam Newton was when he entered the League, but Manziel is much more mobile. If he could learn to scramble in the pocket in Paytons offense, y'all wouldn't skip a beat once Brees retires.

I don't want to see the Saints with a NFL caliber Manziel, but love to see exciting players who can make the highlight reel every week.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 7:27 pm
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:05 pm to
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If he could learn to scramble in the pocket in Paytons offense, y'all wouldn't skip a beat once Brees retires.


He's still not mature enough to own up to things which makes me question his new-found maturity.

For example, remember when it was rumored that he wanted cash for selfies at the Super Bowl and then he went on twitter and denied it?

Guess what:
Busted Coverage
quote:

Mark Berman @MarkBermanFox26

Johnny Manziel arrives at Stadium Signatures in Katy Mills Mall. According to https://cravethrauto.com fees include $99 any item, selfies $50

7:35 PM - 2 Feb 2017 · Houston, TX


quote:

Darren Rovell ? @darrenrovell

Fan pays $99 to have a picture taken with Johnny Manziel in Manziel's famous Halloween costume

7:49 PM - 2 Feb 2017
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71586 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:21 pm to
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IMO his throwing ability is not far off from where Cam Newton was when he entered the League, but Manziel is much more mobile.

But Cam is 6 inches taller and 70 lbs heavier with a stronger arm.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70902 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:06 am to
Cam is a frickin giant though and uses his size to scramble and run. And is more accurate. I agree an NFL caliber Manziel is deadly. I watched Vick. But Johnny ain't that.
Posted by uptownsage
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2014
2156 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:20 am to
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Payton looking for a babysitter.


or someone to party with?
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:23 am to
quote:

For example, remember when it was rumored that he wanted cash for selfies at the Super Bowl and then he went on twitter and denied it?

Guess what:

Because he didn't get paid for each one, an agency did. That whole story was blown completely out of proportion.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:56 am to
This is honestly rap throwing shite at the wall

CSP meeting jff during the Superbowl week at breakfast doesn't equal interest in signing.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71037 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 6:57 pm to
Manziel in New Orleans is a disaster waiting to happen. He couldn't even behave in Cleveland.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64322 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:06 pm to
Love March reports of coaches running into former QB's around Christmas last year.

Posted by Thunder
Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
2421 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:39 pm to
would not be against it
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 8:02 am to
I think once everyone realizes regardless of what happens he isn't seeing playing time this year here, everyone will calm down.

I wouldn't mind seeing him in a preseason game.
Posted by Klongdawg
Member since Oct 2010
8293 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 8:22 am to
If he can't figure it out under SP and DB, it's over for him. I think he knows this would be his last chance. Think it's worth the risk.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:27 pm to
Only NY LA Miami & LV would be worst temptation for him than NOLA
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