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re: Official Barkevious Mingo THUNDERDOME thread

Posted on 3/23/13 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by supersaints9
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 1:11 pm to
I'm gonna laugh when we go OT in the first round, and all of this will have been for naught.
Posted by SonOfABayouBandit426
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 1:48 pm to
I love LSU and would love to have them wearing black and gold just as much as the next guy but i think mingo is too much of a project to take at 15.. He's isn't built (even in LSUs great weight room program), he cant separate himself from tackles, and he flat out becomes invisible during games. Also why does everyone think he will suddenly becomes all pro just because he is standing up when he has never played a 3-4 OLB before.

I just pray that Jarvis jones miraculously falls to us. Forget his 40, the man can flat out play with pads on. That way we don't have to worry about this mingo nonsense. Or just trade down.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 1:51 pm to
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Dwight Freeny. None of those guys are known for any pass rushing moves (besides Peppers jumping and Mingo does that on occasion)


Wait what? Freeney made a career off of the spin move
Posted by CocoLoco
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 2:33 pm to
Yea, not sure what he meant by that.

Freeney's sacks were basically always from his cyclone spin.
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 2:39 pm to
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but he got pressure and a lot of it.


Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 2:42 pm to
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I love LSU and would love to have them wearing black and gold just as much as the next guy but i think mingo is too much of a project to take at 15.. He's isn't built (even in LSUs great weight room program), he cant separate himself from tackles, and he flat out becomes invisible during games. Also why does everyone think he will suddenly becomes all pro just because he is standing up when he has never played a 3-4 OLB before.



because he went to LSU and their leader Chadboi told them so. A player who would rather play pattycakes with DJ Fluker for 4 full games then help his team win is probably gonna sack Matt Ryan 4 times a year.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 2:48 pm to
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A player who would rather play pattycakes with DJ Fluker for 4 full games then help his team win is probably gonna sack Matt Ryan 4 times a year.


Are the rest of your 65k threads this overwrought with emotion and bitterness?
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 2:56 pm to
don't get your Ingram starter jersey in a bunch
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 3:10 pm to
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Wait what? Freeney made a career off of the spin move


I know. He's got one move. That's not a barrage of pass rushing artillery there. But at the heart of it, he's a speed rusher.
I'm sure Mingo can learn a spin move...
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 3:18 pm to
Could you interpret that for me?
Posted by mindbreaker
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 3:28 pm to
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I love LSU and would love to have them wearing black and gold just as much as the next guy but i think mingo is too much of a project to take at 15.. He's isn't built (even in LSUs great weight room program), he cant separate himself from tackles, and he flat out becomes invisible during games. Also why does everyone think he will suddenly becomes all pro just because he is standing up when he has never played a 3-4 OLB before.



I'll answer you because you have actual concerns vs. Maxiums who is just spewing fumes without any substance. As a 3-4 you don't have to separate from blocks as much as beat your guy to the punch with speed and pass rush moves. 3-4 is designed to disguise the blitz so the offensive linemen are at a disadvantage not knowing which side its coming from. Mingo is fast, stupid fast for his size. From a Stand-up position he has advantage over a 330 pound linemen lined up in a 3-point stance. As far as his size it's comparable to Von Miller (6' 2" 237) who just had a 17 sack season (not sure on the number and not looking it up but it's close). Don't get me wrong I don't think he's Von Miller. I was just showing you how an undersized guy can rack up sacks if he is smaller than your average DE. Mingo's measurements and athletic ability are custom built for a rush outside linebacker. Go look through the mock drafts every team he is projected to runs a 3-4. He has never projected as a DE like he played in college because you are right he sucks at fighting off of blocks. Yes he will have to be coached. Yes it won't be perfect, but in the NFL you draft for ability and hope you can coach them up. If that wasn't the case Ansah would not be projected as a top ten pick yet there he is with all of two years of football. If he can beat one OT every two games that will be 8 sacks in one year more than any one player on the Saints the last two seasons.

All that said Yes i would want Jones over him any day of the week Ansah too for that matter. Hell if Lane Johnson is there at OT I'm cool with it. All I'm saying is I'm not jumping off a bridge and bitching if we get Mingo. Not because he's an LSU player, but because he projects well in the new defense under Rob Ryan.

Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 6:17 pm to
14 sentences of pretending to be a scout. You should say more scout stuff like A gap and 5 technique next time.
This post was edited on 3/23/13 at 6:27 pm
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 6:23 pm to
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don't get your Ingram starter jersey in a bunch


What does this mean Max?
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 6:26 pm to
Starter is a brand of shitty sports attire. Mark Ingram is a saints RB.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 6:33 pm to
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I'm gonna laugh when we go OT in the first round, and all of this will have been for naught.


I sure hope so. We legitimately need one.
Posted by Hulkklogan
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 7:05 pm to
You started out with a solid troll job here max, but it's time to give it up and move back to the Rant
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 7:39 pm to
whats a troll job about saying dont pick a 4.5 sack guy at 15 because he went to LSU?
Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 7:51 pm to
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14 sentences of pretending to be a scout. You should say more scout stuff like A gap and 5 technique next time.
You're just so fricking cool
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 7:52 pm to
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A player who would rather play pattycakes with DJ Fluker for 4 full games then help his team win is probably gonna sack Matt Ryan 4 times a year.

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don't get your Ingram starter jersey in a bunch

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Mingo is awesome. Saints board groupthink tells me so. SHOULD WE? HECK YES!!!!!!!!!! With Walter Thomas clogging up blocks in the middle, Mingo will be able to fly in off the edge for at least 18 sacks per.

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BOOM. Chad is a brilliant leader.

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(who pretends he has ever lived in the 504 area code just fyi

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. I watch Mingo play, you watch Gilmore Girls and then try to be an online scout

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saints board tards unite! Chadboi's scouting is going to lead you into the promised land. I'm sure Loomis is scouring the "SHOULD WE..." threads daily.



You didn't start out trolling, but it turned into that.
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