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re: NFLPA asks player agents to reconsider signing with the Saints
Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:34 pm to bonethug0108
Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:34 pm to bonethug0108
Just for you reading pleasure. LINK
Like I said, you are wrong about them being shite out of luck. Plus, and UDFA doesn't have income from the prior year. So theirs aren't based off of previous earnings. It is currently based off of their salary(which hasn't been earned yet) divided by 52 weeks. If I get my first job making 800 per week for the first 2 months, and then 1000 per week after that, then get hurt on the job after two weeks, I can't base my WC off of future earnings.
Please get back with me on how I am wrong after you read the link. Have a nice day.
Like I said, you are wrong about them being shite out of luck. Plus, and UDFA doesn't have income from the prior year. So theirs aren't based off of previous earnings. It is currently based off of their salary(which hasn't been earned yet) divided by 52 weeks. If I get my first job making 800 per week for the first 2 months, and then 1000 per week after that, then get hurt on the job after two weeks, I can't base my WC off of future earnings.
Please get back with me on how I am wrong after you read the link. Have a nice day.
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:41 pm to iwasthere
quote:I told you that the only time injury settlements are used is when a player is going on IR but instead they agree to a settlement.
Injury settlement: Instead of putting the waived/injured player on the IR for the rest of the season a team will negotiate an injury settlement if the player has a chance of returning from the injury in that season.
This says what I told you.
Not all injured players that are released go on IR. Those guys that are released in the offseason are screwed if this law passes.
Edit:
I see where I may have been wrong on one thing, but teams can chose to release those players under the skill designation saying that they wouldn't have been good enough to make the team anyway and avoid putting them on IR.
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:50 pm to bonethug0108
But if they have an injury, they must receive WC until healed. If the team waives them prior to being healed, they must reach an injury agreement. No matter what, the team can't just release a player that is injured without paying them something. This law would only change the amount of WC. Like in my previous post..
Do you think it is fair that a guy that has no previous income (like an UDFA) should have his WC benefits based off of his future earnings? That is what happens right now.
Do you think it is fair that a guy that has no previous income (like an UDFA) should have his WC benefits based off of his future earnings? That is what happens right now.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:54 pm to iwasthere
It's based off of a 1 year contract, and being that the team agreed to that contract yes I do think it's fair.
It's not like they can get more than the max amount anyone else gets.
It's not like they can get more than the max amount anyone else gets.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:59 pm to bonethug0108
If I sign a contract with my company, then get hurt a week later, my benefits aren't based off of those future earnings. It will beaded off of what I have earned to date. So I don't think it is fair they get special treatment on this. I am sorry you think it is fair.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:09 pm to iwasthere
The previous year, not the upcoming one. That's why UDFAs get the biggest shaft here.
Edit:
Actully now that I typed it out and looked at it that way UDFAs would be screwed under the current system so I guess it doesn't affect them at all(in their first year).
Edit:
Actully now that I typed it out and looked at it that way UDFAs would be screwed under the current system so I guess it doesn't affect them at all(in their first year).
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:15 pm to bonethug0108
An UDFA doesn't have prior income from the NFL. I just got my first job so I have no prior income. My job pays me $800 a week for 2 months. After 2 months it goes to $1000 a week. If I get hurt in my 2nd week of work, my WC benefits are based off of my last 2 weeks. Now, the UDFA signed for say $250,000. It is 2 weeks into the preseason and he gets hurt. He isn't yet earning his $250,000, yet his WC is based off that $250,000. That is not fair. They aren't getting screwed one bit. This just makes them get paid like others from WC.
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:20 pm to bonethug0108
Me and you need to get some drinks after these conversations.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:26 pm to iwasthere
Trying to remember all of these rules and stuff from memory isn't easy.
But like I said I couldn't care less what these guys get. I just don't want it to have a negative impact on us and I don't think it will outside of a couple of guys.
I think the important thing not being brought up though is that the cases are already being settled in court as if the law works the way they are trying to change it. What this is really doing is trying to save the Saints' some lawyer fees in having to go to court to fight it in the first place.
So in the end this is really about Benson's lawyer fees vs. risking losing a couple of players here and there.
But like I said I couldn't care less what these guys get. I just don't want it to have a negative impact on us and I don't think it will outside of a couple of guys.
I think the important thing not being brought up though is that the cases are already being settled in court as if the law works the way they are trying to change it. What this is really doing is trying to save the Saints' some lawyer fees in having to go to court to fight it in the first place.
So in the end this is really about Benson's lawyer fees vs. risking losing a couple of players here and there.
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:28 pm to oncealurker
This is why the saints got punish for that fake bounty stuff cause of this stuff. If we push this law Godell will come up with something else maybe take all of our free agent money and all our draft picks. The nfl is one evil powerfull organization and when you go against it you get burn we are going to get burn watch.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:52 pm to bonethug0108
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So in the end this is really about Benson's lawyer fees vs. risking losing a couple of players here and there.
I'd say it's really about insurance premiums. Workers comp insurance is required by law. I suspect the attorneys litigating these cases represent the insurance company...not Benson.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:56 pm to saintsalwaysnumber1
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If we push this law Godell will come up with something else maybe take all of our free agent money and all our draft picks.
Not really. If this law gets passed, you can bet the other 31 owners will follow.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 9:07 pm to adono
Well whatever way it works it's about Benson saving some bucks.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:29 pm to adono
quote:
We'll see what the admin thinks. I RA this.
Have a nice day.
I'd wanna party with this guy!
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:33 pm to adono
quote:
We'll see what the admin thinks. I RA this.
Haha what? I hope they ban you for doing that, weirdo.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 5:21 am to adono
quote:
We'll see what the admin thinks. I RA this. Have a nice day.
What a vagina..
Posted on 5/17/14 at 5:37 am to adono
quote:
I'd say it's really about insurance premiums. Workers comp insurance is required by law. I suspect the attorneys litigating these cases represent the insurance company...not Benson.
One solution is for the NFL or its franchisees to self fund workers comp. Get the insurance company out of the equation, except as a claims administrator if you must, and handle it all in house.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 7:29 am to oncealurker
Now as I read the passage it saying that some states/teams don't want to pay as much worker's comp if the 16 game season is not going on. I understand that but if the player is hurt doing football related stuff like preseason, otas, mini camps, playoffs they should still be paid the same. You should only not be paid worker's comp if you where to get hurt playing basketball, car accident, etc.... basically anything non football associated. If we was injured off the job we would not get worker's comp.
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