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re: Mel Kiper's first mock draft of 2016 released today

Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115787 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:52 pm to
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How does Kiper still have a job. He is wrong more than he is right. I think all the hair gel companies that buy commercial air time on ESPN is the only reason why he is still around. He also should be the poster boy for Adderall.



Its not about getting Mock Drafts right. Its about giving information about players, and around where they should be drafted. That's about it.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112327 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:55 pm to
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is wrong more than he is right. I think all the hair gel companies that buy commercial air time on ESPN is the only reason why he is still around. He also should be the poster boy for Adderall.


It's hard to get fired from a profession that you created.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61274 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:55 pm to
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Its not about getting Mock Drafts right. Its about giving information about players, and around where they should be drafted. That's about it.
This. I'm surprised more people don't understand this.

Good Lord, he's not the Amazing Kreskin.

Posted by uptownsage
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2014
2156 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:56 pm to
I personally think he is a hack and he sucks. MHO. He is a talking head to fill dead air time in between selections.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112327 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:59 pm to
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Its not about getting Mock Drafts right. Its about giving information about players, and around where they should be drafted. That's about it.


Even more importantly it's about getting viewership and clicks and generating interest in an otherwise mundane NFL offseason event that used to be just a bunch of old dudes smoking cigars in a hotel lobby and randomly picking players to play for them for 3K a year
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115787 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:20 pm to
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Even more importantly it's about getting viewership and clicks and generating interest in an otherwise mundane NFL offseason event that used to be just a bunch of old dudes smoking cigars in a hotel lobby and randomly picking players to play for them for 3K a year




Well...yeah its more about that than anything.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28904 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:39 pm to
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Would rather Jaylon Smith or Myles Jack and getting Haloti Ngata in the Off seaso


Yes, adding a player who just had to have his entire knee reconstructed would be a good move to help this defense.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 5:54 pm to
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Yes, adding a player who just had to have his entire knee reconstructed would be a good move to help this defense.


It's amazing the amount of fans who continue to think drafting Smith is a good idea. The chances of Smith ending up like Marcus Lattimore is greater than his chances of being like Todd Gurley.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41187 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 6:38 pm to
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Can't post all of it because it's premium info


It is public knowledge, CNN had it on their site this morning. I copied it straight from here


Pick Team Player
1 Tennessee Titans Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State
2 Cleveland Browns Jared Goff, QB, California
3 San Diego Chargers Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss
4 Dallas Cowboys DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon
5 Jacksonville Jaguars Jalen Ramsey, DB, Florida State
6 Baltimore Ravens Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
7 San Francisco 49ers Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss
8 Miami Dolphins Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson
9 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida
10 New York Giants Myles Jack, LB, UCLA
11 Chicago Bears Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama
12 New Orleans Saints A'Shawn Robinson, DL, Alabama
13 Philadelphia Eagles Robert Nkemdiche, DL, Ole Miss
14 Oakland Raiders Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State
15 Los Angeles Rams Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
16 Detroit Lions Jarran Reed, DL, Alabama
17 Atlanta Falcons Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson
18 Indianapolis Colts Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio State
19 Buffalo Bills Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama
20 New York Jets Jaylon Smith, LB, Notre Dame
21 Washington Redskins Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson
22 Houston Texans Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
23 Minnesota Vikings Josh Doctson, WR, TCU
24 Cincinnati Bengals Will Fuller, WR, Notre Dame
25 Pittsburgh Steelers Kendall Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
26 Seattle Seahawks Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State
27 Green Bay Packers Austin Johnson, DT, Penn State
28 Kansas City Chiefs Kenny Clark, DT, UCLA
29 Denver Broncos Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State
30 Arizona Cardinals Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia
31 Carolina Panthers Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State
Posted by HMTVBrian2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
5760 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 6:43 pm to
I really feel like DeForest Buckner is the best interior lineman in the draft this year

dude was pretty much unstoppable this year

PFF's college grades had him way into the green
Posted by SNAPPERHEAD
Possumneck, Ms.
Member since Jan 2006
10049 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 6:59 pm to
Hopefully Jaylon Smith will fall to round 2. He will miss the 2016 season due to injury.
Posted by PurpleDrank18
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2011
4508 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:15 pm to
Unless Tennessee sees Bosa as a once-in-a-generation type player, who is a unquestioned #1 pick, idk how they can afford to pass on either Tunsil or Stanley. That line was atrocious, and they just drafted their hopeful franchise QB. Gotta protect him.
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
96191 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:00 pm to
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Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64213 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:13 pm to
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lly think he is a hack and he sucks. MHO. He is a talking head to fill dead air time in between selections.


He's not a gm or a scout but the guy definitely does some serious homework regarding prospects. He's there to share info and entertain people. I think he's more worthwhile than the vast majority of that network.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32958 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:27 pm to
Damn, Shaq Lawson, Buckner, Treadwell and M. Jack gone before us. Hopefully San Fran, Chicago or Dallas goes for a QB. I'd be ok with Robinson, especially over Nkemdiche.

I'm surprised Ogbah fell so far.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:42 pm to
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McShay had the saints drafting Reed, with Robinson being the next pick.

Can't go wrong with either. Reed is more powerful, Robinson more athletic


This.

Also feel like Reed is more polished at this point, he uses his hands better than any other DL in the draft. But Robinson has more upside and could be a force on the DL down the road.

Would be happy with either though.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31583 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:03 pm to
I don't know. Robinson didn't stand out when I watch him like Shaq Lawson did. If he fell to us, he would be dominant for us.
Posted by Eman5805
West Bank
Member since Nov 2010
5098 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:57 pm to
Robert Nkemdiche is all of McCoy's athleticism, size, and strength, but none of McCoy's off the field record coming out of Oklahoma.
Posted by hugo_boss
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
990 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:42 am to
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Robert Nkemdiche is all of McCoy's athleticism, size, and strength, but none of McCoy's off the field record coming out of Oklahoma.


Or production. He never touched McCoy's production.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 5:05 am to
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he has to accurately mock the drafts for him to be good this job?


The job is the thing that's stupid. Speculation on draft picks is just a waste
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