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re: Medical rechecks on Jaylon Smith/Myles Jack not positive
Posted on 4/18/16 at 3:28 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 4/18/16 at 3:28 pm to Lester Earl
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If yall are willing to risk the injury then are you prepared to risk Spence's "off the field history"?
I'm just here on an Internet message board and can only assume so much. I assume the Saints medical staff would clear him and if so, then yes, I'd pick him. If the coaches have interviewed Spence and feel his "off the field history" is behind him, then I'm ok with that pick as well.
Do you really think Jack will be a dud?
And there's no guarantee that anyone will be or won't be a dud. I think Nkemdechi will be a dud. But I'm sure a lot of people think otherwise.
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 3:33 pm to Lester Earl
Personally I don't care if a player took recreational drugs Like Spense and knemdichi. Von miller was suspended for extacy and honey badger liked the sticky icky. As long as the problem is weed and extacy and not character issues is OK with me.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 3:34 pm to Suntiger
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Do you really think Jack will be a dud?
not a dud in terms of talent, a dud in terms of chronic knee issues
Posted on 4/18/16 at 5:15 pm to Chad504boy
if he is there in the 3rd, sure
Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:20 am to partywiththelombardi
I'm willing to roll the dice on Jack with our first pick, or Smith from the third round on, but I think we will probably pass on both. Sean's end of year interview he talked about properly evaluating injuries, and I think these may scare him off. I think it's worth the risk on these guys because if healthy, we would be talking about 2 top 5 picks. Then again, when Tampa got Da'Quan Bowers in the second round I was upset they got the steal of the draft, he would have been a top 10 pick if healthy too, but his injuries have held him back big time.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:39 am to partywiththelombardi
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Smith should undoubtedly be 100% removed from draft consideration no matter the round.
noPosted on 4/19/16 at 9:44 am to partywiththelombardi
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If information is accurate and not a mere smokescreen...Smith should undoubtedly be 100% removed from draft consideration no matter the round.
You wouldn't consider him in the 7th rd? What are the chances that a healthy 7th rd pick even makes the team?
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:02 am to Bear Is Dead
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What are the chances that a healthy 7th rd pick even makes the team?
Have you seen our roster?
Depends on what position that pick is used on but you are looking at someone who is very likely to be on our final roster if he even has a pulse.
Strief and Colston were both 7th rounders. Thomas Rawls went UDFA a year ago. Talent can be found anywhere.
Look at how many UDFA's/Rookies made the team/got serious playing time last year. Many of them were not good by any means...how many positions on our current roster could legitmately be upgraded with a 7th? off the top of my head WR depth, OL depth, DL depth, DB depth, Starting K...all of whom if they make the 53 this year would play serious minutes and could evolve into a starter if we got a "find".
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You wouldn't consider him in the 7th rd?
How many times has Sean been burned drafting players with injuries/potential. When has that ever worked for this current regime? Jaylon has a worse injury than any of those players.
How many teams would have passed him over how many times by that point with full knowledge of his medical records, with better rosters, and more picks than us?
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:06 am to Bear Is Dead
Smith's Tests are bad
Nerve damage confirmed, "Not sure if or when nerves will regenerate" Almost 100% he's out at least for 2016. Still not off my board, we took Tull last season despite knowing he would be redshirted, and nobody was ever saying he was possibly the best player in the draft
Nerve damage confirmed, "Not sure if or when nerves will regenerate" Almost 100% he's out at least for 2016. Still not off my board, we took Tull last season despite knowing he would be redshirted, and nobody was ever saying he was possibly the best player in the draft
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:19 am to Bear Is Dead
The 7-Round Mock on CBS yesterday by Dane Brugler has Jaylon falling to the 4th.
1 pick before us.
111. Detroit Lions – Jaylon Smith, LB, Notre Dame
112. New Orleans Saints – Kenny Lawler, WR, California
Saints (6 picks)
1 (12) – Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville
2 (47) – Xavien Howard, CB, Baylor
3 (78) – Deion Jones, LB, LSU
4 (112) – Kenny Lawler, WR, California
5 (152) – Kenyan Drake, RB, Alabama
7 (237) – Romeo Okwara, DE, Notre Dame
Instead of thinking Marcus Lattimore, think Peyton Manning.
Neural regeneration is a funny business. It could take 1 year, 2 years, maybe never...
You aren't asking just WHEN it might happen, but also will Jaylon be the same player when it does?
I feel terrible for the kid, but with our needs, I wouldn't touch him till the 5th.
We have the opportunity to leave the first 4 Rounds with immediate contributors at DT, OL, WR and DE/OLB....
We won't roll the dice. Let's wish Jaylon well on someone elses team.
1 pick before us.
111. Detroit Lions – Jaylon Smith, LB, Notre Dame
112. New Orleans Saints – Kenny Lawler, WR, California
Saints (6 picks)
1 (12) – Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville
2 (47) – Xavien Howard, CB, Baylor
3 (78) – Deion Jones, LB, LSU
4 (112) – Kenny Lawler, WR, California
5 (152) – Kenyan Drake, RB, Alabama
7 (237) – Romeo Okwara, DE, Notre Dame
Instead of thinking Marcus Lattimore, think Peyton Manning.
Neural regeneration is a funny business. It could take 1 year, 2 years, maybe never...
You aren't asking just WHEN it might happen, but also will Jaylon be the same player when it does?
I feel terrible for the kid, but with our needs, I wouldn't touch him till the 5th.
We have the opportunity to leave the first 4 Rounds with immediate contributors at DT, OL, WR and DE/OLB....
We won't roll the dice. Let's wish Jaylon well on someone elses team.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 2:37 pm to partywiththelombardi
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Strief and Colston were both 7th rounders. Thomas Rawls went UDFA a year ago. Talent can be found anywhere.
But way more often than not, 7th rd picks don't make much of a contribution.
I understand the injury is bad, but if healthy, he would be in the running for the #1 ranked player in the draft.
If we are just picking examples out of a hat, I remember a QB that we signed who most said would never get back to his previous production due to a possibly permanent injury.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 2:54 pm to Bear Is Dead
i think the "he was in the running for the #1 overall pick" is a bit overplayed. Most had him top 5, but #1 overall? Nah.
I'll spend a 7th on him, hell I'd spend a 4th on him, but top 3 rounds are where we can find instant contributors or 2nd year contributors at a high rate. Here, we're risking someone who may never take the field due to pain and motor issues, it just isn't the same kind of risk.
I'll spend a 7th on him, hell I'd spend a 4th on him, but top 3 rounds are where we can find instant contributors or 2nd year contributors at a high rate. Here, we're risking someone who may never take the field due to pain and motor issues, it just isn't the same kind of risk.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 2:58 pm to htran90
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i think the "he was in the running for the #1 overall pick" is a bit overplayed. Most had him top 5, but #1 overall? Nah.
I didn't say he would've been the #1 pick. Many analysts have said he would likely be in consideration for the highest ranked player in the draft.
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