re: Mariota @ #13, Yes or No?

If you take Mariotta you are sacrificing the now and greatly reducing your chance to win now. You are also signaling the end of the Brees era. If they believe Mariotta is the guy of the future, trade Brees now and commit to the rebuild. Stack future draft picks to give him every chance at succeeding as possible. We would be abysmal this year, but end up with a very high pick next year, plus what we get for Brees.

Side note: I don't want any of this to happen. I think Mariotta is an aberage NFL an at best and we would be looking for a new qb in less than 3 years.

You trade backs to the eagles get a second and a fourth plus the guard Mathis. So you wouldnt have to waiste your first round pick on a guard that is not proven. Your trying to protect your qb now. I'm pretty sure there will be some good defense of guys avaible at the eagles pick.even if you get Mathis you still draft young backup o line to groom but wouldn't have to stress it until later. Or trade up to Washington pick and force the eagles to mortgage a pick next year but still try to get Mathis.If teams was smart play eagles like a fiddle. Chip wants his qb trust me. The eagles will do something stupid to get him and Loomis has to be looking at capitalizing because we got the most room to make a play to force chips hand.

I think you have to take him. Trade down is the best case. Someone will want him. If we can pull off a good trade we could be set for years.

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If you take him you would have to start him 2016.

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Why?

EF NO!

Personally I think you absolutely target him if he gets to 10. I am calling and doing whatever possible to get this kid.

I'm not sure some people realize what Mariota could be. First off, people think Aaron Rogers is athletic and brings mobility to the equation, Mariota is faster and has a bigger frame. His mechanics are better than Rogers' were when he left Cal (McCarthy had to tweak a lot with Rogers before he was NFL ready).

Basically, and I usually don't like quoting Mel Kiper, but some of these coaches need to justify that term 'coach' in front of their name. Quit expecting a finished product from a first year player, especially at the QB level, especially when everyone says he needs time to transition from a spread system.

We think Payton is an elite QB coach, right? He's proven he's done wonders with Brees, and he did a lot to find and develop Romo. Mariota has more physical skills than both of those guys. If you think you've got an all-time sculptor, why not give him the best block of marble to work with?

If we committed to this, it could be a franchise-saving move. Right now we're treading dangerously close to turning into what Denver was when Elway left. The Colts would be in the same situation ever had they not had the most random string of fortunate luck and timing of all-time. Green Bay (and earlier San Fran) have showed how to transition from eras. Also, with today's set salary brackets for rookies, it's not like you're paying someone Sam Bradford money to sit on the bench.

It's close to a no-brainer IMO. If you can sit Mariota for a while you will get one helluva player in a couple years. There are a handful of Mannings and Lucks who can start from day one. For every one of them there's a Brady and a Rogers that need a bit of time. And if we're comparing, I want both of the later guys personally.

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If you take Mariotta now you aren't sacrifing much besides one player plus you can acquire a trade farm for drew next offseason. Getting assets to build around a next decade qb.

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I really don't have any idea what Brees' trade value will be next year; there are a bunch of variables in that equation.

1. Who will want to take on that $20M salary (we'll eat $7.4M)?
3. What kind of new deal will he be willing to sign with a trade partner?
3. Teams will know the Saints will cut him because they're not paying that much money; so, the trade value goes down.
4. History tells us that there's not a large market for a 37 year old QB. Montana was 36 when traded to the Chiefs and the 49ers got a 1st rounder (18th pick) but gave up a starting Safety and their 4th round pick). BTW...there were only 2 teams interested in Montana (the Chiefs and Cardinals).

Drew has a good year, there would be a minimum of 5 teams willing to give up substantial assets to get his services

No for trading up, but yes if he's there at 13. In regards to the "trade down if here's there at 13", you don't think the 8-10 teams a head of us are thinking the same? Obviously the price to move up to 13 is less than 5-10, but if he's still there at 13, then that most likely means no one was willing to trade up for him.

Would not trade up or down.like you've said before there's only a handful of top talent in this draft and they'll all be gone later in the draft. I want to see mariota go to a team with a starting qb already on the roster. Right now he seems like he rellies on his legs instead of his reads/arm. He needs time to develop and learn how to make reads in a pro style offense. That would be his best chance at become a starting caliber qb. If he gets thrown to the wolves his first year he could end up like RG3 or Kap and struggle to throw in the NFL. As far as his accuracy he didn't throw well in the playoffs, but as far as I could tell he was pretty accurate for most of the season.