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re: Is Drew Brees a top 10 QB of all time?
Posted on 3/16/16 at 2:13 pm to TechDawg2007
Posted on 3/16/16 at 2:13 pm to TechDawg2007
Drew has only had the chance to play with 2 top 10 scoring defenses where with 1 he won the superbowl. That's pretty efficient numbers when compared to others with top 10 defenses to make the opportunity at a superbowl easier.
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 2:42 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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Brees is ahead of guys like Montana (a system QB),
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 4:00 pm to 1BamaRTR
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+ 1,000,000
Yes he's thrown a lot of passes, but he STILL has to throw those 'lots of passes' ACCURATELY, they STILL have to be CAUGHT, and he's STILL had to step in the pocket, have good rush awareness, or even scramble ON EVERY ONE of these pass attempts.
He also has not (as has been mentioned) had the luxury of name all-pro receivers. Colston and Henderson come the closest.
Also what's NEVER mentioned is that Brees probably holds and will hold the NFL record for NUMBER OF DIFFERENT RECEIVERS 'all those passes' went to....
With pitiful defenses, (save 2009's opportunistic D and 2013's #4 finish), and pretty much a no-name supporting cast, Brees has had the Saints in:
2 NFCC games and should have had a 3rd in 2011, 6 playoff appearances and a Super Bowl.
He may be #1 in most categories and hold ALL the all-time stats records when he retires, but, he should, at the very LEAST, be considered a Top 5 QB all-time, if not higher, after his career is over.
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1BamaRTR
Is Drew Brees a top 10 QB of all time?
by 1BamaRTR
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You fricking nailed it. What is a system? You mean the plays designed and called around a quarterbacks strengths ??
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People think just because he throws a lot of passes that makes him a system QB. That's just dumb though. The majority of QBs in NFL history could never put up his numbers even if they threw a bunch of passes. Not to mention he's never had a pro bowl WR and usually has really bad defenses. Brees has the big numbers, decent amount of wins including the Big One, and the honors/accolades. He is definitely a top ten
+ 1,000,000
Yes he's thrown a lot of passes, but he STILL has to throw those 'lots of passes' ACCURATELY, they STILL have to be CAUGHT, and he's STILL had to step in the pocket, have good rush awareness, or even scramble ON EVERY ONE of these pass attempts.
He also has not (as has been mentioned) had the luxury of name all-pro receivers. Colston and Henderson come the closest.
Also what's NEVER mentioned is that Brees probably holds and will hold the NFL record for NUMBER OF DIFFERENT RECEIVERS 'all those passes' went to....
With pitiful defenses, (save 2009's opportunistic D and 2013's #4 finish), and pretty much a no-name supporting cast, Brees has had the Saints in:
2 NFCC games and should have had a 3rd in 2011, 6 playoff appearances and a Super Bowl.
He may be #1 in most categories and hold ALL the all-time stats records when he retires, but, he should, at the very LEAST, be considered a Top 5 QB all-time, if not higher, after his career is over.
Posted on 3/19/16 at 2:06 am to TechDawg2007
Although I get your point, Brees had Graham for some of his best seasons. Now, when you point out HoF wrs Brees wins that argument. 
Posted on 3/19/16 at 2:57 pm to xxKylexx
I don't get the Elway love. Yeah he is a HOF'er and should be but he is way overrated in my opinion. Brees over Elway easily.
Posted on 3/19/16 at 3:08 pm to Soup Sammich
quote:He led several shitty teams to the Super Bowl and AFC Championship.... he won once the Broncos developed a RB and a defense though....
Yeah he is a HOF'er and should be but he is way overrated in my opinion
Brees is certainly a top 10 all time... I would have
Manning
Brees
Marino
Montana
Young
Unitas
Brees
Graham
Favre
Elway
(No particular order)
Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:18 pm to xxKylexx
Dave Dameshek's list of top 10 Qbs in the Super Bowl era. He has most of the players, but his order is CRAZY.
Posted on 3/19/16 at 8:43 pm to xxKylexx
Why does there always have to be a Top Ten, or a Top Five of freakin everything? There are too many different eras to do an All Time list like this. Can Brees call plays in a game without a speaker in his helmet like Unitas and those of his era did? Could Manning and Brady be as effective without the Defensive rules changes over the past 20 years?
Posted on 3/20/16 at 1:29 am to xxKylexx
Hmmm, Could be, but Top 12 for sure
Mine Would be:
Top 15 Super Bowl QBs
We reached 50, so its time to expand it to 15 Too many Great QB to leave off with 10.
1) Tom Brady
2) Joe Montana
3) Terry Bradshaw
4) John Elway
5) Roger Staubach
6) Peyton Manning
7) Johnny Unitas
8) Troy Aikman
9) Drew Brees
10) Aaron Rodgers
11) Ben Roethlisberger
12) Steve Young
13) Eli Manning
14) Bart Starr
15) Jim Kelly = one of the Best Ever not to win a SB (went to 4)
*Honorable Mention
Dan Marino & Fran Tarkenton - 2 more not to win a SB
Those are My Top QB's to Play in a Super Bowl
Mine Would be:
Top 15 Super Bowl QBs
We reached 50, so its time to expand it to 15 Too many Great QB to leave off with 10.
1) Tom Brady
2) Joe Montana
3) Terry Bradshaw
4) John Elway
5) Roger Staubach
6) Peyton Manning
7) Johnny Unitas
8) Troy Aikman
9) Drew Brees
10) Aaron Rodgers
11) Ben Roethlisberger
12) Steve Young
13) Eli Manning
14) Bart Starr
15) Jim Kelly = one of the Best Ever not to win a SB (went to 4)
*Honorable Mention
Dan Marino & Fran Tarkenton - 2 more not to win a SB
Those are My Top QB's to Play in a Super Bowl
This post was edited on 3/20/16 at 2:57 am
Posted on 3/20/16 at 4:24 am to 24chevrolet48
Marino and Young were both better than Big Ben
Lmao at Aikman in the top 10 and Bradshaw at 3. What in the frick!?
Lmao at Aikman in the top 10 and Bradshaw at 3. What in the frick!?
This post was edited on 3/20/16 at 4:26 am
Posted on 3/20/16 at 8:50 am to xxKylexx
He's definitely top 10. He'll have most every record by the time he's done.
I'd love to see him get one more SB (beating Brady preferably) since many people put so much weight in # of titles & MVPs
I'd love to see him get one more SB (beating Brady preferably) since many people put so much weight in # of titles & MVPs
Posted on 3/20/16 at 9:05 pm to 24chevrolet48
frick that list for having Ben Roethlisberger over Drew Brees and for having Rodgers over Manning and Brees...
Posted on 3/21/16 at 11:16 am to xxKylexx
Top 10 of all time? Maybe in procreation
Posted on 3/21/16 at 1:11 pm to BigBrowbowski
I say no
Posted on 3/21/16 at 1:13 pm to 24chevrolet48
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3) Terry Bradshaw
Posted on 3/21/16 at 1:40 pm to xxKylexx
Yes, if he played in the CFL
Posted on 3/21/16 at 2:04 pm to shotcaller1
The obsession is real
If I were you I'd be mad too that Louisiana football teams have owned Texas football teams my entire life.
fricking pussy.
If I were you I'd be mad too that Louisiana football teams have owned Texas football teams my entire life.
fricking pussy.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 6:44 am to xxKylexx
I'd say definitely yes in more recent times whatever that means. All time is impossible to say.
Unitas, Namath, Baugh, Van Brocklin, Staubach, etc. etc.
And since people are bringing up the Super Bowl for evidence, you have to include people like Stabler, Bradshaw, and even Aikman.
Unitas, Namath, Baugh, Van Brocklin, Staubach, etc. etc.
And since people are bringing up the Super Bowl for evidence, you have to include people like Stabler, Bradshaw, and even Aikman.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 6:59 am to Tigertown in ATL
Super Bowl appearances/victories is a team accomplishment NOT and individual one. To be considered the greatest you should have good stats in the big games, but a QB isn't solely responsible for wins and loses, that kind of thinking is just dumb.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 7:04 am to cssamerican
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Super Bowl appearances/victories is a team accomplishment
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that kind of thinking is just dumb.
Exactly my point. See Williams, Dilfer, Flacco, Rypien, etc.
But I am not the one who brought up the SB win. And Saints fans bring it up all the time when talking about DB, including in this thread.
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