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I'm pretty sure this draft just saved Payton/I'm feeling good about the team's direction
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:50 pm
I'm starting to think that we may be better off set up post Brees than a lot of people think.
Lattimore has finally stabilized our CB group
Ramczyk has already solidified himself as being ready to hold a starting T job
Williams is one of the highest graded rookie safeties and is already making plays
Anzalonw showed really good potential before going down
Kamara may be the best satelittle back Payton will have by the end of his career
Hendrickson seems to stay in the rotation very regularly
Even Muhammad has some really good potential flashed in the preseason
We may have one of, if not the best, o-lines in the entire league
We have an all of a sudden very deep DB.group, even moreso when Breaux comes back
Nice young skill position guys that will be around for awhile between the WRs/RBs
The defensive line is the best its been in years with some actually very good depth. If Fairley was on this line it may be top 5 in the NFL level
The only remote weakness I see on this team currently is the LB group but I think Robertson playing so well with Klein and still having guys like Teo coming off the bench is the first step in the right dorection since Vilma/Fujita.
I may be riding a little.high here, but this is honestly the best I've felt about this team in 4 years and I really think we're finally back in the right direction after Payton cleaned house of his boys .
Lattimore has finally stabilized our CB group
Ramczyk has already solidified himself as being ready to hold a starting T job
Williams is one of the highest graded rookie safeties and is already making plays
Anzalonw showed really good potential before going down
Kamara may be the best satelittle back Payton will have by the end of his career
Hendrickson seems to stay in the rotation very regularly
Even Muhammad has some really good potential flashed in the preseason
We may have one of, if not the best, o-lines in the entire league
We have an all of a sudden very deep DB.group, even moreso when Breaux comes back
Nice young skill position guys that will be around for awhile between the WRs/RBs
The defensive line is the best its been in years with some actually very good depth. If Fairley was on this line it may be top 5 in the NFL level
The only remote weakness I see on this team currently is the LB group but I think Robertson playing so well with Klein and still having guys like Teo coming off the bench is the first step in the right dorection since Vilma/Fujita.
I may be riding a little.high here, but this is honestly the best I've felt about this team in 4 years and I really think we're finally back in the right direction after Payton cleaned house of his boys .
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:50 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
We go 7-9 you fire him, bring in a defensive minded coach, and keep Jeff Ireland
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:55 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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I may be riding a little.high here, but this is honestly the best I've felt about this team in 4 years
You're not riding high. This is easily the best team we've had in the last 4 years. It's really not even close.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:05 am to Brettesaurus Rex
quote:
Lattimore has finally stabilized our CB group
Ramczyk has already solidified himself as being ready to hold a starting T job
Williams is one of the highest graded rookie safeties and is already making plays
Anzalonw showed really good potential before going down
Kamara may be the best satelittle back Payton will have by the end of his career
Hendrickson seems to stay in the rotation very regularly
Even Muhammad has some really good potential flashed in the preseason
So far seems like one helluva draft...
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:06 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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The only remote weakness I see on this team currently is the LB group but I think Robertson playing so well with Klein and still having guys like Teo coming off the bench is the first step in the right dorection since Vilma/Fujita.
I agree. The offense has legit talent & depth(besides a backup RT...hopefully Strief comes back week 14) at every position. We could use a legit #1 TE(we do have 3 guys here though), another deep threat WR, & an eventual replacement for Unger(mid round pick). It's not like we have to rush to make it happen though. Finding Brees' replacement & continuing to add O-Line depth are the 2 most important things on offense imo.
I really like our talent & depth on the D-Line, CB, & S positions. I think we have solid LB's that are smart, instinctive, & sure tacklers. They just lack elite athleticism & speed (especially after losing Anzalone). The 2 biggest weaknesses of our defense are giving up a big run to the outside & LB pass coverage. We really need to add speed to the LB position in the offseason. Assuming we re-sign Okafor, QB & LB would be my 2 main targets in the 1st round.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 6:55 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 1:41 am to GMoney2600
I think we need more depth at the o-line. Strief is gone after this year and while the starters are great, who can really be considered reliable behind them? Kelemente may be the only one. That said, I don't know if you use a first rounder on o line depth (even though we did this year and it's paying huge dividends) or go DT/LB. That's obviously an offseason problem but that seems to be the early direction of the draft.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 3:37 am to SuperSoakher
Yea we're kind of getting ahead of ourselves b/c there are so many unknowns at this point, but right now these are the positions to be targeted in the offseason imo...
-Assuming Brees re-signs with us...we still need to consider drafting his eventual replacement. 1st round or bust imo. I wouldn't mind the 2nd round(if we had a pick in that round), but the 3rd round seems like a shot in the dark. Russell Wilson's are very rare.
-A #3 RB if Lasco doesn't suffice. This can be had for cheap in free agency or with a 4th-6th round draft pick. We could also draft one in the 7th round & sign 2 or 3 udfa's. Chances are that we'll hit on at least one of them. RB is the easiest position to hit on in the 7th round & udfa's.
-Another deep threat WR without investing a lot. Although, I wouldn't complain if we took one as early as the 3rd round if our target falls right in our lap. 3rd/4th round is where the value at WR is.
-The TE position is all dependent on whether or not we cut Fleener.
-Another backup interior O-Lineman(OG/OC...probably a mid round pick) & a backup RT for Ramczyk. Should be able to find a decent backup RT for cheap in free agency. LT should be fine with Armstead as the starter & Peat/Kelemete as the backups. Also, I think LeRibeus has a decent chance to stick around next year.
-The DT position is all dependent on whether or not Fairley plays for us in 2018.
-Hopefully we can re-sign Okafor for a reasonable price. We'll either highly invest in the position if we don't retain Okafor, or try & hit on a low risk/high reward guy again. We hit on Okafor, but seriously busted with Kruger using this method. Hendrickson might factor into the decision if he keeps improving.
-We seriously need to add speed to the LB position & it's probably going to come at a high cost. I really like our depth though. Anzalone looks like he's going to be the kind of LB we need, but we all know about his injury problems(which is why he fell to the mid 3rd round).
-I seriously don't think we need any help here if Breaux comes back 100% healthy, but we'll have a better idea at the end of the season. Lattimore, Crawley, PJ Williams, & Breaux(RFA) will all be here next year. If Sterling Moore hasn't regressed this year...I'd take him back as our #5 CB. Maulet might even develop into a decent CB by then.
-The Safety position is all dependent on whether or not we re-sign Vaccaro. If we don't...we probably need to draft a Safety or sign a vet free agent. If Vaccaro keeps playing like he has for the past 3 games...somebody is going to pay him a good amount. I'd take Bush back as our #4 Safety, but we should have 3 guys better than him to start the season.
-FB & LS are a question mark for next year, but we're talking league minimum money here. Zach Wood is getting the job done so far at LS.
-Assuming Brees re-signs with us...we still need to consider drafting his eventual replacement. 1st round or bust imo. I wouldn't mind the 2nd round(if we had a pick in that round), but the 3rd round seems like a shot in the dark. Russell Wilson's are very rare.
-A #3 RB if Lasco doesn't suffice. This can be had for cheap in free agency or with a 4th-6th round draft pick. We could also draft one in the 7th round & sign 2 or 3 udfa's. Chances are that we'll hit on at least one of them. RB is the easiest position to hit on in the 7th round & udfa's.
-Another deep threat WR without investing a lot. Although, I wouldn't complain if we took one as early as the 3rd round if our target falls right in our lap. 3rd/4th round is where the value at WR is.
-The TE position is all dependent on whether or not we cut Fleener.
-Another backup interior O-Lineman(OG/OC...probably a mid round pick) & a backup RT for Ramczyk. Should be able to find a decent backup RT for cheap in free agency. LT should be fine with Armstead as the starter & Peat/Kelemete as the backups. Also, I think LeRibeus has a decent chance to stick around next year.
-The DT position is all dependent on whether or not Fairley plays for us in 2018.
-Hopefully we can re-sign Okafor for a reasonable price. We'll either highly invest in the position if we don't retain Okafor, or try & hit on a low risk/high reward guy again. We hit on Okafor, but seriously busted with Kruger using this method. Hendrickson might factor into the decision if he keeps improving.
-We seriously need to add speed to the LB position & it's probably going to come at a high cost. I really like our depth though. Anzalone looks like he's going to be the kind of LB we need, but we all know about his injury problems(which is why he fell to the mid 3rd round).
-I seriously don't think we need any help here if Breaux comes back 100% healthy, but we'll have a better idea at the end of the season. Lattimore, Crawley, PJ Williams, & Breaux(RFA) will all be here next year. If Sterling Moore hasn't regressed this year...I'd take him back as our #5 CB. Maulet might even develop into a decent CB by then.
-The Safety position is all dependent on whether or not we re-sign Vaccaro. If we don't...we probably need to draft a Safety or sign a vet free agent. If Vaccaro keeps playing like he has for the past 3 games...somebody is going to pay him a good amount. I'd take Bush back as our #4 Safety, but we should have 3 guys better than him to start the season.
-FB & LS are a question mark for next year, but we're talking league minimum money here. Zach Wood is getting the job done so far at LS.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 4:35 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 6:36 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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Kamara may be the best satelittle back Payton will have by the end of his career
Am I the only who thinks AK can be an every down back?
I keep waiting to see the first two game D come back and after 3 games they have not.
I am still not there yet though. Need a wider sample but the DB position makes me excited.
Like to see a more dominant O.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:20 am to t00f
I think Anzalone is really good but I heard a rumor his career is over.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:24 am to higgsBoson
Ireland and Nolan made this draft a success. Don't forget MIKE NOLAN!
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:34 am to t00f
I def think he can be. I can see him being one of the NFL's best if given the workload.
Honestly though, I'd rather him not take a beating on the ground with high volume every week. He keeps those chains moving in the passing game
Honestly though, I'd rather him not take a beating on the ground with high volume every week. He keeps those chains moving in the passing game
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:36 am to 9WhoDat37
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I def think he can be. I can see him being one of the NFL's best if given the workload.
Honestly though, I'd rather him not take a beating on the ground with high volume every week. He keeps those chains moving in the passing game
Honestly think it's best for him and his career to do what he's doing with Ingram.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:45 am to Brettesaurus Rex
Great looking drsft but Payton wasn't going anywhere
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:55 am to Lester Earl
quote:dont think he would have been fired w that contract but I think Loomis would have been open to trade if things got ugly
but Payton wasn't going anywhere
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:58 am to Chad504boy
Yea, CSP would probably have to go like 3-13 to be moved with that contract. The funny thing is that Benson probably thinks Loomis runs the show & not CSP, b/c Loomis is the guy that reports to Benson due to the fact that he's the GM.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 9:23 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:17 am to higgsBoson
What kind of injury could he have sustained that would end his career?
Seemed like a separated shoulder and I don't see that being a career ender.
Seemed like a separated shoulder and I don't see that being a career ender.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:14 am to bonethug0108
It’s an untrue rumor. They think his injuries have something to do with technique.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:06 am to Brettesaurus Rex
How did breaux grade out in man to man coverage? I seem to remember him struggling in 1 on 1 matchups..
Now that we are playing more M2M defense, I hope he can still be effective..
**could be way wrong with my memory of him struggling in M2M situations
Now that we are playing more M2M defense, I hope he can still be effective..
**could be way wrong with my memory of him struggling in M2M situations
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