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re: Graham pissed about the offensive PI flag
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:15 pm to diat150
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:15 pm to diat150
Why would the most analyzed Hail Mary in history have any bearing on anything? Clearly VOR doesn't give a shite. Let's forget past practice, reality, and common sense and just rely on a ridiculous position to justify our bullshite argument?
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Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:23 pm to Chad504boy
Ok, thanks for setting me straight.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:25 pm to wayne5w
Well you can see the push off for yourself , since that isn't changing your mind then nothing can, just want u to know what you are though
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:28 pm to Chad504boy
Actually no Chad, I see a bit of contact, not enough to call on a hail mary, and I see a soccer type flop that a fricking moron of a ref falls for. That's what I see, but thanks anyway Chad.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:31 pm to wayne5w
There's a shove, defender gets knocked down
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:35 pm to VOR
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The only people on earth who don't think it was an acceptable call are posting on this board.
bullshite. I called 2 of my buddies who are die hard 9ers fans, as I used to live in SF, and they thought it was a weak call but added "payback from last year's call!"
I had multiple texts from other friends who are fans of other teams saying "that was a pitiful call" and "you don't make that call on a Hail Mary".
I agree Jimmy touched the guy, but the dude flopped. They would have to start calling PI on almost every HM if that is one. And guess who that normally favors? The offense (in case you didn't know
) Eta: let me say, that's not why the Saints lost though. They lost because of a stubborn, arrogant, a-hole of a coach and QB who forces shite too much.
This post was edited on 11/9/14 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:37 pm to Chad504boy
No Chad, defender flopped. Watch some soccer, you would know why all the soccer fans are pissed.
Missed the world cup eh Bro?
Missed the world cup eh Bro?
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:39 pm to wayne5w
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Actually no Chad, I see a bit of contact,
How would you describe that big of contact?
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:41 pm to Chad504boy
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There's a shove, defender gets knocked down
It's not a shove, you're being dishonest. He did sort of push away a bit and technically, that can be called PI. I think most agree. Calling that on a Hail Mary where there's 10 guys all pushing a bit to get the ball? horseshite. They literally have to call PI on every single Hail Mary from now on if that light push warrants it. The dude flopped. But the ref didn't see the flop so at that point he has to go off what he thinks is PI. It sucks but I can see why it happened. It just seems that kind of call always goes against the Saints though.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:42 pm to Chad504boy
Honestly, I think it's definitely OPI.. I just think it's stupid to call it because if you observed every player on that play (or any Hail Mary) there would be a ton of interference from both sides. As a ref, you calling it on one player is blasphemous. Cox definitely flopped - the play wouldn't have really been affected much by that push regardless but he played it off well. Defensive players know that any offensive flag ends the game there. Gotta take what you can get.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:44 pm to Indfanfromcol
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How would you describe that big of contact?
The way I did, a BIT of contact. Happens on every goddamn play, not to mention a hail mary.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:48 pm to Sho Nuff
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I think most agree. Calling that on a Hail Mary where there's 10 guys all pushing a bit to get the ball? horseshite.
If they had not called PI on Boldin earlier in the game, I think it is a bullshite call.
However, the refs had already thrown OPI in the game, and it would be almost favoritism to not call it on the play, regardless if it was a hail mary.
Yeah, defender took a huge dive, but with Graham extending his arms (bad timing if you don't want to believe he was pushing off even a tiny bit) combined with refs needing to stay consistent, it had to be called.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:50 pm to wayne5w
There was a shove and there was a flop. The refs were calling OPI during the game, see Boldins. Both were weak OPI calls, but at least they were consistent. It's not the same every game, just like the strike zone changes. All you can ask for is consistency.
Side note - I was impressed with Mark Ingram. He doesn't have much wear on him, and I wouldn't mind seeing Hyde and Ingram in the same backfield next year if the saints don't want to pay him.
Side note - I was impressed with Mark Ingram. He doesn't have much wear on him, and I wouldn't mind seeing Hyde and Ingram in the same backfield next year if the saints don't want to pay him.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:51 pm to Indfanfromcol
I get the "consistency" argument. Finally someone brings up a valid issue. Still, I think Hail Mary and other circumstances overrides that issue.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:55 pm to wayne5w
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The thing is VOR does not realize that the "situational" component is a big part of the penalty calls. He thinks that looking at the black and white print makes his case, refusing to accept that there is huge variability in interpretation and enforcement of the rules as written.
I'll be waiting for some evidence to support that statement.
Plain and simple, there are some very upset Saints fans posting in this thread who would be going absolutely apeshit if the situation were reversed and not called.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:55 pm to Chad504boy
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Wayne you wrong bro
Wayne is among the very, very angry.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:57 pm to wayne5w
Most times, I hate when an official throws a flag on a play that can change the game. However, I just think how they already been calling the game, and how the hard the guy dived combined with JG arm motions, they had no choice.
Brightside, even after tomorrow night, yall will still be #1 in the division, and it honestly won't be hard for yall to win the rest of the games in the NFC South.
Brightside, even after tomorrow night, yall will still be #1 in the division, and it honestly won't be hard for yall to win the rest of the games in the NFC South.
This post was edited on 11/9/14 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:58 pm to VOR
True enough.
And among they very, very right.
Regardless we can't leave this shite in the refs hands.
And among they very, very right.
Regardless we can't leave this shite in the refs hands.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 9:08 pm to Lester Earl
It would not have pissed me off so much if Boldin had not been pushing off the entire fricking game.
The only time Boldin was called on it was MUCH worse than Graham's and the commentators were saying that it was a close call
The only time Boldin was called on it was MUCH worse than Graham's and the commentators were saying that it was a close call
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