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re: General consensus of how the Saints drafted this year
Posted on 5/2/15 at 5:53 pm to LosLobos111
Posted on 5/2/15 at 5:53 pm to LosLobos111
Don't you know we are supposed to take first rounders in the fifth? I mean that's the only names the causual fans know anyway.
It's the same shite every year. Of course most people don't know these names. The only names the media shoves down our throats is the guys projected to go in the first. So if you don't research and aren't a knowledgeable fan of a college team/teams then you won't recognize anyone later in the draft/past the first or second round.
And it's funny how everyone assumes guard isn't addressed like they know how much Payton likes or hates Lelito or Kelemete or that he doesn't plan on moving Strief or Armstead inside eventually.
Same goes with receivers. Just because YOU don't think much of the guys doesn't mean Payton shares that opinion.
As far as a "grade" I give it an A+++ because we finally drafted a LB in the first after 20 years, and we got another in the second when the highest one they've ever drafted under Payton was one in the third (Wilson). Plus we picked up Tull to boot.
It's the same shite every year. Of course most people don't know these names. The only names the media shoves down our throats is the guys projected to go in the first. So if you don't research and aren't a knowledgeable fan of a college team/teams then you won't recognize anyone later in the draft/past the first or second round.
And it's funny how everyone assumes guard isn't addressed like they know how much Payton likes or hates Lelito or Kelemete or that he doesn't plan on moving Strief or Armstead inside eventually.
Same goes with receivers. Just because YOU don't think much of the guys doesn't mean Payton shares that opinion.
As far as a "grade" I give it an A+++ because we finally drafted a LB in the first after 20 years, and we got another in the second when the highest one they've ever drafted under Payton was one in the third (Wilson). Plus we picked up Tull to boot.
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Posted on 5/2/15 at 5:54 pm to Ice Cold
My take on the draft:
The Peat pick was a head scratcher at the time, but it would seem the OLine got better.
Loved the Anthony pick. I didn't want them to wait until 44, so my best pick. I'm confident that he will be MLB starter week 1.
Kikaha was someone I never heard of. But he's been productive in a major conference and I like that.
Williams was a surprise for me as I thought he'd be gone. He fits what they are trying to do on D and I think he contributes day 1.
The later round guys will fill in depth and/or camp bodies. Except for Davidson. He'll be on the rotation early.
So, If I am right (fat chance) we'll have had 4 defensive guys playing as rookies and 1 OT possibly. Can't ask for a lot more that that.
The Peat pick was a head scratcher at the time, but it would seem the OLine got better.
Loved the Anthony pick. I didn't want them to wait until 44, so my best pick. I'm confident that he will be MLB starter week 1.
Kikaha was someone I never heard of. But he's been productive in a major conference and I like that.
Williams was a surprise for me as I thought he'd be gone. He fits what they are trying to do on D and I think he contributes day 1.
The later round guys will fill in depth and/or camp bodies. Except for Davidson. He'll be on the rotation early.
So, If I am right (fat chance) we'll have had 4 defensive guys playing as rookies and 1 OT possibly. Can't ask for a lot more that that.
This post was edited on 5/2/15 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 5/2/15 at 5:54 pm to adono
Thanks for the insight, armchair expert.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 6:09 pm to Ice Cold
Kikaha
Anthony
Davison
Williams
These are my favorites in order.
I believe all of these will contribute immediately. Peat will end up being a stud.
Anthony
Davison
Williams
These are my favorites in order.
I believe all of these will contribute immediately. Peat will end up being a stud.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 6:21 pm to bonethug0108
B- to C+. I understand the pick of the QB, and he looks pretty good ... but... I think they could have picked up a WR there, or a guard (I won't say who, b/c for some reason it's not permitted in discussion.) Peat was probably too good not to be taken. The two LBs look good. We'll see. Djon't know anything about the DT or CB (Williams.)
Posted on 5/2/15 at 6:25 pm to TigerJeff
You think they shouldve picked up that guard yet they and every other team felt they had to pass him over due to the seriousness of this situation. He also said he won't sign with a team if picked after the third round.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 8:58 pm to CocoLoco
I'm looking forward to seeing our defense next year 
Posted on 5/2/15 at 11:05 pm to nateslu1
the Peat pick confused me but we may have landed the best tackle in the draft so that's good.
I started yelling like a madman when we picked Anthony. It's about... fricking... time. Thank You.
Kikaha has been a disruptive guy for Washington racking up sacks and tackles for losses. Sounds good to me. Didn't miss a game the last few years so I'm not all that worried about his injury history like some may be.
Surprised we took a QB in the 3rd. I was kind of hoping for a WR but I'm glad we got Grayson. I'd definitely rather have him then somebody like Bryce Petty or Mariota. Sorry, I'm not a fan of QB's for the up tempo HUNH offenses in college. And thank Christ we didn't use a late round flier on Brandon Bridge. Nothing against him but he was frustrating to watch last year for South Al.
Williams was kind of a surprise. Surprised he was still available and that we took a corner at that moment. Not in a good or bad way though. I guess with a lot of picks at our disposal it shouldn't have been a surprise.
Tull seems kind of like Kikaha except he played with a hand on the ground while Kikaha was a stand up DE in college. Don't know what to really think about Tull because of the level of competition but I'm interested to see what he does.
Davison might be the guy who takes Tyrunn Walker's spot in the D-line rotation. It kind of sucked losing Walker so hopefully Davison can get in there and contribute.
Swann will have an uphill battle in a crowded secondary.
Murphy... good luck bro. I'm just tired of typing at the moment.
I started yelling like a madman when we picked Anthony. It's about... fricking... time. Thank You.
Kikaha has been a disruptive guy for Washington racking up sacks and tackles for losses. Sounds good to me. Didn't miss a game the last few years so I'm not all that worried about his injury history like some may be.
Surprised we took a QB in the 3rd. I was kind of hoping for a WR but I'm glad we got Grayson. I'd definitely rather have him then somebody like Bryce Petty or Mariota. Sorry, I'm not a fan of QB's for the up tempo HUNH offenses in college. And thank Christ we didn't use a late round flier on Brandon Bridge. Nothing against him but he was frustrating to watch last year for South Al.
Williams was kind of a surprise. Surprised he was still available and that we took a corner at that moment. Not in a good or bad way though. I guess with a lot of picks at our disposal it shouldn't have been a surprise.
Tull seems kind of like Kikaha except he played with a hand on the ground while Kikaha was a stand up DE in college. Don't know what to really think about Tull because of the level of competition but I'm interested to see what he does.
Davison might be the guy who takes Tyrunn Walker's spot in the D-line rotation. It kind of sucked losing Walker so hopefully Davison can get in there and contribute.
Swann will have an uphill battle in a crowded secondary.
Murphy... good luck bro. I'm just tired of typing at the moment.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 11:34 pm to lsutigers1992
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Incomplete. Get back to me in 2018.
This. Finally, some common sense on this board. Wish I could get the last two minutes of my life back.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 1:02 am to cheo25
Everyone seems to think we reached for Anthony, but if you look at Kendricks it makes sense. Maybe Kendricks is a more complete linebacker, but Anthony is about 3 inches taller and slightly bigger. I think the saints were looking for a big bruiser in he middle and they got just that. There was a run on LBs at the beginning of the second before our pick, so we have no guarantee he'd have been there at 44. PJ Williams is great value when we got him. I dint know much about he LBs, but I like drafting production over measurables. This is something we rarely do. I don't mind not drafting a WR. Loading up on D will pay dividends. It's clear that we're trying to beef up the run game. We paid 10 mil on RBs this year. We clearly don't value WRs as much as we have in the past. I think this offseason has shown a drastic shift in our priorities on positions and on priorities of skill sets. Only time will tell if it was the right move, but what we were doing wasn't working.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 2:19 am to higgsBoson
I like a lot of your post but have to disagree with one thing. Anthony is definitely the more complete LB between him and Kendricks. Kendricks was hands down the best in coverage but Anthony is second best, a better run defender, and a better blitzer.
These were my top two guys and I was leaning Kendricks because of his very good cover skills, but I feel we got the best overall LB. Can't be mad at that.
These were my top two guys and I was leaning Kendricks because of his very good cover skills, but I feel we got the best overall LB. Can't be mad at that.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 3:03 am to LSUFreek
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Could end up as the best draft in the Payton era, IMO.
Agreed. I think this was a smart draft instead of flashy draft.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:49 am to ipodking
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Other than the QB I'm fine with this draft
You didn't watch any Colorado State games did you? Kid looks really good and knows pro style offenses. I think he's perfect for our offense and has underrated arm strength.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 11:10 am to BRL79
Yes he Grayson ran a pro style passing game makeing reads etc.Nfl starting ready i thought he was more so from the QB the Titans selected.Saints now set with two good young Qbs in Grayson an Griffin who both ran pro style passing games in college.I like Luke Mc'Cown but a t age 34 its time to look to the furture.Luke is ok not bad he will back up some other team this year.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:43 pm to Henten
Bump
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:47 pm to nateslu1
I'll tell you about last year. Grade D.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:08 am to nateslu1
They let everything play out, try to make a few small moves in earlier rounds, stayed patient. Bigger, smarter and tougher on defense.
Give 'em an A
Give 'em an A
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