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Excellent read on what the Saints need to do on offense vs Seattle

Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:37 pm
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:37 pm
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Clear solutions or easy plays aren't available against Seattle. Sean Payton is a smart coach and understands that. Risks aren't a problem, so long as they are calculated risks. Payton may have another plan that could expose the best defense in the NFL. From the outside looking in, it appears that establishing the run with Mark Ingram and focusing on Jimmy Graham is their best plan for success.
No matter what plan Payton comes up with, he will need near-perfect execution to overcome this daunting task.
Posted by marinebioman
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:40 pm to
I know this isn't groundbreaking, but having manageable 3rd downs will help TREMENDOUSLY which goes hand in hand with at least a semi-successful run game.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:41 pm to
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I know this isn't groundbreaking, but having manageable 3rd downs will help TREMENDOUSLY


first two drives on offense, killed the whole game, momentum, confidence, etc. We need to GAIN yards on our early runs and be productive.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:47 pm to
getting points on the opening drive has become a rarity for us, and this needs to change. soooo important to have a strong opening drive to quiet that crowd. doesn't matter if it's in 1 play or 10 neither. the game control/management is important after this
Posted by marinebioman
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:50 pm to
I say the first drive has to be about getting at LEAST one first down at all costs...meaning don't throw the ball way down the field with low probability of success thus setting yourself up behind the chains
Posted by poule deau
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:53 pm to
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I know this isn't groundbreaking, but having manageable 3rd downs will help TREMENDOUSLY


The turnovers we had in the first game were backbreakers, I thought. They totally took the air out of the Saints. No momentum at all after that.

I also heard a quote from Jimmy G earlier this week about the biggest takeaway for the Saints from the first game and he said it was the speed of Seattle. Caught the Saints totally off guard. Said they wouldn't be surprised again. Payton usually seems to find a way to exploit an opponent and I can't see this one at least being much closer than the first game.

In fact, I honestly think the Saints win 24-17.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:53 pm to
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first two drives on offense, killed the whole game, momentum, confidence, etc. We need to GAIN yards on our early runs and be productive.


They need to have productive runs on the first couple of drives and not abandon the run. That and be on defense first.
Posted by whomewhat
Member since Jan 2004
765 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:58 pm to
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first two drives on offense, killed the whole game, momentum, confidence, etc. We need to GAIN yards on our early runs and be productive

Yeah this breakdown from Grantland touches on that.

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It was a beatdown, but in rewatching the game, I was surprised at how much came down to Seattle catching several key breaks early. Seattle was the better team on the day and deserved to win, and the Saints had no hope of catching up once the Seahawks got out to a 27-7 halftime lead, but New Orleans showed a lot more during the first half than I remembered. It made me believe that the Saints might have a better shot of making Saturday's game a contest than my memory — and the final score of that encounter in Week 13 — suggested.


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Where I really felt like the Saints were unlucky was in dealing with the game's two early fumbles, which had a tremendously important role in putting them behind in this contest.


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Posted by SilvaSpear
Virginia
Member since Oct 2013
81 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 3:15 pm to
The Saints plan will need to be balanced on both sides of the ball. We will need long possessions on offense. A sound running game can do that. Arizona won the game because the had 139 yards rushing and like 170 yards passing. Time of possession however was AZ 37 minutes, Seattle 22 minutes. We must keep their offense off the field as much as possible. We also must put a spy on Russell Wilson. His ability to stretch plays is insane and he is looking to pass so the DBS must stay with their man or cover their zone. The red zone will be the make or break zone. We must come away with points in the red zone, as hard as it may seem, we will have to run the ball consistently in the red zone. Their DBS are good, but they exceptional in tight spaces. Turnovers can easily happen. If our defense can hold them to under 20 we will have a good chance. If we cannot maintain drives even if we don't get any points, game over. Our defense will need recovery time. One too many three and outs, we're done. Not to mention they are calling for 100% rain. Really? 100%.
Posted by JPLIII
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 3:15 pm to
I trust that SP and RR are going to be prepared and have our team prepared. Outside of that, I hope for two things:

1) That we handle any adversity and stay locked into the game, even if we happen to fall behind a little.

2) Play as physical as possible, even if it means a penalty here and there. We got bullied last game against them.....it's my hope that regardless of the outcome, the Seahawks come out of that game knowing they just played a tackle football game.

Leave No Doubt!!!
Posted by Brightside Bengal
Old Metairie
Member since Sep 2007
3883 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 3:19 pm to
Weather is predicted to have rain, 25 mph winds with gusts as high as 50. It may be more crucial than anything that we win the toss and choose to drive with the wind in the 4th.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30189 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:00 pm to
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first two drives on offense, killed the whole game


This is the reason we lost the game.

I even told myself on that first drive "The Seattle crowd doesn't seem THAT into it, so let's not give them a reason to be". Then boom, a fumble recovery returned for a TD. From then on, we were fricked.

We must keep the crowd out of this game. To do that we need to run run run run run and then run some more. Those corners will get antsy and we will burn them.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:20 pm to
I seem to be feeling better about this game than most are.
We don't get behind the 8-Ball right off the bat like last time.
Coaches and players will be far, far better prepared since they recently played.
The intangibles will be expected and the team will be ready for.
Our O will be balanced since we won't be behind 3 scores in the first Q.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
14776 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:29 pm to
If the article says that the Saints can only beat Seattle the same way they beat Philly (with a steady run game and stout defense), then the article has the right game plan for a Saints win.
Posted by Dats Who
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:35 pm to
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If the article says that the Saints can only beat Seattle the same way they beat Philly (with a steady run game and stout defense), then the article has the right game plan for a Saints win.
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Thats right. Thats what I'm talking about, with a calculated risk or two.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36808 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:38 pm to
Something else that needs to be at least considered is the confidence and momentum this team has mustered up from a week ago.
The only negative I see is how injured we are on D.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36808 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:41 pm to
Honestly, the Eagles O should be more feared than Seattle. Our D held Philly in check rather well. Our O has the ability to break out anytime. Now would be a good time.
Saints win.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:02 pm to
I can sum up what the saints need to do on offense in one word:

block

Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36808 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 6:41 pm to
Keep Wilson in the pocket
Posted by mentalis
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 6:46 pm to
Great analysis on this thread
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