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re: Examining disastrous depths of the Saints' irresponsible salary cap management
Posted on 9/20/16 at 9:58 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 9/20/16 at 9:58 am to Chad504boy
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load of fricking shite post right here folks. this is what happens when you start handing out keyboards on the streets folks
If you want to keep the hope alive that's fine. I'm basing my opinion on the moves that have been made over the past few years and the performance of the team. #1 ranked offense, #31 ranked defense = 8-8 or 7-9 performances. That will be the same result this year too and I don't have faith in out front office and scouting department to revamp this defense.
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:02 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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If you want to keep the hope alive that's fine. I'm basing my opinion on the moves that have been made over the past few years and the performance of the team. #1 ranked offense, #31 ranked defense = 8-8 or 7-9 performances. That will be the same result this year too and I don't have faith in out front office and scouting department to revamp this defense.
that's fricking wonderful. PS we are literally a blocked FG for a TD play and a disastrous PI call from being 2-0 but you got it all fricking figured out that this is a non competitive team this and next year. people with this thought process can go frick off. i'm tired of all this pessimism.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:10 am to Chad504boy
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that's fricking wonderful. PS we are literally a blocked FG for a TD play and a disastrous PI call from being 2-0 but you got it all fricking figured out that this is a non competitive team this and next year. people with this thought process can go frick off. i'm tired of all this pessimism.
We should be 2-0, don't forget Oakland went for 2 and for the love of God made it at the end of the game, ugg!
Key injuries that have kept us from having a decent pass rush killed us in the Oakland game.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:15 am to t00f
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Key injuries that have kept us from having a decent pass rush killed us in the Oakland game.
1. Breaux
2. PJ
You just can't make this shite up. Horrible bad luck for a team with little to no pass rush.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:25 am to Chad504boy
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1. Breaux
2. PJ
You just can't make this shite up. Horrible bad luck for a team with little to no pass rush
Totally agree .. Hopefully the Saints can pull a 2009 and fill the gap with street DB's.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:33 am to saintsfan22
quote:Coby Fleener looks like a turd after two games. Let's just see how this pans out...maybe not every TE fits into a Jimmy Graham sized hole in an offense.
Drew's face looks like someone just told him how much Fleener makes.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:48 am to Chad504boy
Chad is killing it in here.
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:50 am to The Sad Banana
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Coby Fleener looks like a turd after two games. Let's just see how this pans out...maybe not every TE fits into a Jimmy Graham sized hole in an offense.
After Graham left and Watson had the kind of year he had last year, I thought it was just plug and play at TE in this offense. Granted Fleener might get better, but I think I underrated Ben Watson.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 11:09 am to Kingpenm3
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Did you hear them talking about how Chicago is the only team that has less of their own draftees than New Orleans on the game last night. And look where that has gotten NO and CHI
Was coming to post the same thing, I believe they said the organizations have 19 & 20 drafted players on their roster.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 11:20 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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Anyway you look at it, this team won't compete realistically for a playoff spot for at least another two years. That's based off of Drew still being able to perform at the same level he's performing now
I'm trying to look at it from anyway possible and I just don't see it. This year is a realignment year, cut a whole bunch of fat leaving a desolate young team. We have a massive cap space off season coming up. 2017 will be the make or break year for the front office. If the upwards trend doesn't continue through 2017, I'll be right with you calling for heads. Stop being short sighted.
We were dominating game 1 until we lost the one player everyone was in consensus as the guy who "cant get hurt" other than drew in breaux bc we had nothing behind him. Game 2, the d gave up 0 td's and we lose bc of a block fg td return. The sky is not falling.
I'd say all things considered, if we are looking solely at the way the cap has been handled beyond the actual personnel decisions which loomis probably has 20-30% of control over; Loomis has done an unbelievable job, considering our hindsight list of wrong decisions is 10 pages long and we are STILL going into a massive purchasing offseason. I can't hate on the way the teams been run for the last year (The only decision I wasn't on board with before we saw how it panned out was probably cj, just didn't see need, but I still thought he'd be productive in this O); it was the 2 years before that where we dug a massive hole, and then gallettes dumbass exclamation pointed it.
I'd say that Carolina game in dec of '14 was the absolute low mark for this regime. The franchise is trending upwards now, it's kind of hard to make a u-turn in a season in this league.
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 11:59 am
Posted on 9/20/16 at 11:56 am to jmcwhrter
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The Saints greatest success came from turning relatively unknown players into pro-bowl offensive linemen.. The whole offensive show was based on getting top-level O-line play from players on rookie contracts
this was roster wide in '06-09. That's really the only difference with the team now and then. Cheap effective gems.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 12:20 pm to Pendulum
Posted on 9/20/16 at 12:31 pm to Pendulum
Well I'm glad y'all didn't end the thread because that was a great post.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:02 pm to Pendulum
quote:I have to disagree, here. The Saints lost because they got 0 points off 3 turnovers. That's just mindbottlingly inept. That's why the Saints lost. That and some terrible playcalling.
and we lose bc of a block fg td return. The sky is not falling.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:04 pm to The Sad Banana
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The Saints lost because they got 0 points off 3 turnovers
You're spouting off incorrect facts. We would have won had we got 0 points off of 3 turnovers.
We actually got -7 points off of 3 turnovers.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:07 pm to htran90
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They "went all in" in 2012 free agency and continued to do so thinking one more piece is all they needed.
Denver did the same thing a couple years back, the difference is they had an elite pass rusher and continued to add DL talent while we kept adding secondary guys
Exactly. The Saints had the HOF QB in tow and figured now is the time to make hay while we got him. Win another Super Bowl or two then blow it up after Drew is done. Unfortunately, most of their FA signings haven't been great. They put priority on keeping a lot of the Super Bowl group together a bit longer than they probably needed to, then missed on guys like Grubbs, Byrd, Spiller, Gallette, Browner. Couple that with bad drafts, and you end up where they are now.
The Saints have gone all out to win big with Drew. Their personnel decisions just haven't paid off.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 3:55 pm to Chad504boy
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i'm tired of all this pessimism.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 5:50 pm to soccerfüt
40 million against the cap for players that are not even on the team. FFFFUUUUCCCKKKKKK
Posted on 9/20/16 at 9:32 pm to soccerfüt
You posted it before I could. Your record says it all. No asterisks.
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:16 pm to Kingpenm3
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Did you hear them talking about how Chicago is the only team that has less of their own draftees than New Orleans on the game last night. And look where that has gotten NO and CHI.
Except the bears aren't in win now mode
Chicago has Ryan pace, he's in his 2nd year and had to clean house bc he was left a shite storm. We should've promoted him and fired Mickey
While we were signing James laurenitis, he was out getting Danny trevathan and jerrell Freeman on team friendly deals. While we sat on our OL, he went out and overhauled their shite OL and got manny Ramirez, ted Larsen, Bobby massie and recently josh Sitton. He let high priced vets like bushrod and forte walk
Who will clean up our mess and save us in the coming years?
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