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Did Drew Brees' selfish holdout hurt the Saints's offense Sunday

Posted on 9/10/12 at 5:48 am
Posted by FightOn4ever
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2012
1503 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 5:48 am
No off season workouts with Saints.
Or was this just a coincidence?
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 6:08 am to
It was arrogance. He was so full of himself that he told the o-line that he didn't need them to block.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36859 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 6:16 am to
E-X-E-C-U-T-I-O-N was the problem.

BTW, Drew doesn't play defense or catch the ball.

Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58195 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 6:43 am to
quote:

He was so full of himself that he told the o-line that he didn't need them to block.




Going to be a long week around here. Keep up the good fight against the numbnuts.
Posted by FightOn4ever
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2012
1503 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 6:51 am to
quote:

BTW, Drew doesn't play defense or catch the ball.


But he does throw the ball. And IMO, the lack of off season workouts with key players played a role.

BTW, when the fans are giving him most of the credit for the Saints success, do you add, "BTW, Drew doesn't play defense or catch the ball."?
This post was edited on 9/10/12 at 6:53 am
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 6:59 am to
Drew didn't jump offsides and give them a thrid down conversion. He wasn't the 12th man on the field who gave them a first down instead of a punt. He didn't commit PI on 4th Down. He didn't fumble at the goal line.

Yes, Drew had the worst 3 TD game in his career, but the holdout wasn't the reason. If you look at history, he has one clunker of a game every year. This was this year's.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 7:26 am to
no, what hurt the saints was the defense getting raped all game long and the saints not able to play more balanced on offense. when you have to throw that many times it's a bad thing.

saints must play better defense to allow the offense to run.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 7:40 am to
To be fair: RG3 is a great player, and the Skins came in with a great gameplan that they executed well.

We also let them off the hook several times when they would have punted, turned it over on downs, or actually had punted.
Posted by FightOn4ever
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2012
1503 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 7:50 am to
quote:

Drew didn't jump offsides and give them a thrid down conversion. He wasn't the 12th man on the field who gave them a first down instead of a punt. He didn't commit PI on 4th Down. He didn't fumble at the goal line.

You left out the awful 4Q INT.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117727 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 7:53 am to
quote:

this just a coincidence


this
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 8:03 am to
Yes, that's part of my description of this game as one of his worst ever.

But his holdout had nothing to do with it. He missed exactly zero training camp practices.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 8:36 am to
Some. But everyone on here sucks him off so much that its not possible for him to have a bad game.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 10:12 am to
quote:

FightOn4ever


from NOLA and an SC fan- you must be a huge douche.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 10:13 am to
holdout wasn't the reason


but some of those floaters, well I haven't seen him throw passes like that since........ever
Posted by Jamohn
Das Boot
Member since Mar 2009
13544 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 10:15 am to
So now that this is out of the way, when are you gonna post your first Mark Sanchez thread, Tangerine?
Posted by jdrumdog
baton rouge, la
Member since Jan 2010
7655 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 10:17 am to
nobody wants to acknowledge this, but the penalties just raped us.

that's a sign of a poorly coached team, and while some of those penalties were ticky tack, most were legit. We looked like a badly coached team.

I can't imagine this could be because we're missing our....uh....head coach.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 10:20 am to
quote:

nobody wants to acknowledge this, but the penalties just raped us.



didn't help agreed.

The Harper PI was a total joke. Gave them 6 pts on 4th and 1


and the hold on #85 next series set them back to 1s and 20

neither call was correct but should have never allowed this game to get to that point
Posted by Lafayette VooDoo
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since May 2011
602 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 10:20 am to
We've seen it before. When the receivers begin to drop passes and offense struggles, Brees fights even harder and sometimes forces stuff he wouldn't normally force just to try and make something happen for the offense.

The Redskins did not give anything away during the Preseason on how they would use RG III, which hurt the defense when it came to game planning. They made some adjustments at halftime, but let's face it - having a mobile QB who can actually hit the target when he throws is going to give A LOT of defenses Hell.

The Saints are the best team in the NFL at making adjustments, and like we've seen before - even when they have a horrendous game, they still have a chance to win at the end.
Posted by chrisksaint
Florida
Member since Jul 2011
1712 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 10:21 am to
He didn't have his A game, but he he still made some nice plays(mainly avoiding multiple sacks and gaining something out of it).

He made some poor throws, but he also made a lot of good ones that guys just didn't catch.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166379 posts
Posted on 9/10/12 at 10:21 am to
Drew was a lot better when he only had one rug rat running around the house.
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