- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Deshone Keizer too talented to pass up in round 2
Posted on 2/12/17 at 11:20 am
Posted on 2/12/17 at 11:20 am
I know my fellow saints fans we need DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE, with our first round pick I would love for us to get Solomon Thomas or Derek Barnett, but if Keizer is there for round 2 I think he's too hard to pass up, I'm almost tempted to take him with our 1st if Solomon Thomas is off the board
LINK
LINK
Posted on 2/12/17 at 11:27 am to Louisianabound88
I don't think he's as good as they think. I would pass on him none of these qb's look very good except Watson to me
Posted on 2/12/17 at 11:35 am to tigersmanager
watson's more appealing because of that ring lol
Posted on 2/12/17 at 12:16 pm to Louisianabound88
There's no QB in this draft worth taking before the third round
Posted on 2/12/17 at 2:01 pm to ipodking
Keizer will be gone in first 18 picks easy
Posted on 2/12/17 at 2:04 pm to Louisianabound88
he wont get passed 11
Posted on 2/12/17 at 2:42 pm to tigersmanager
Watson looked like a third rounder to me in most games. Check out the Pitt game.
Posted on 2/12/17 at 2:47 pm to Chalkywhite84
Keizer is EJ Manuel 2.0
Posted on 2/12/17 at 3:07 pm to djrunner
I'm not high on any of these QBs
Posted on 2/12/17 at 3:28 pm to Louisianabound88
quote:
watson's more appealing because of that ring lol
More of what he did to get that ring
But most QBs dominate Bama like that, and he just happened to do it twice
Posted on 2/12/17 at 3:31 pm to Louisianabound88
I don't love any of the QBs this year. If we can get a good defensive lineman or corner in round 2, take him over all the QBs. If there's a QB in the 3rd at a great value, then we take a look IMO.
Posted on 2/12/17 at 3:34 pm to djrunner
Watson looked really good against a Bama Defense that have many future NFL players on their defense. Watson showed what he can do against NFL players.
Posted on 2/12/17 at 3:39 pm to CocoLoco
quote:
I'm not high on any of these QBs
As day one starters, I'm not high on any of them either but that’s not what the Saints would be looking for. I think sitting behind Brees provides the perfect "incubator" type environment for a Deshaun Watson or Pat Mahomes to grow in behind the scenes before ever having be thought of as a starter.
Watson's talent & affinity of being a winner is well documented but he has aspects of his game that needs to be addressed. He has never taken a snap under center. Same goes for Mahomes.
While that may seem like a small matter, it's really not. The steps (3 step, 5 step, 7 step) from under center are timing mechanisms as to when when receivers are supposed to have reached the top of their route. The routes run on certain drops by the QB go in sync with the drop. It takes time to get that timing down when you have never done that before.
Mahomes is just as gifted athletically as Watson while having the bigger arm. He is going to have a major adjustment in front of him from college to the pros because of the system he played in at Texas Tech. He knows how to be a pro. He grew up around professional players & was exposed to how a professional lockeroom operates being that his dad was a MLB pitcher.
quote:
Mahomes, now a sophomore quarterback at Texas Tech, grew up in Major League dugouts, watching his father, Pat, pitch for six Major League teams in 12 seasons.
“During spring training I bought him a plastic bat with one of those little balls and he would never go to bed,” the elder Mahomes said. “He would always want to hit with it. ... I would lay on the bed and he would hit the ball all over the condo.”
And while Mahomes didn’t realize it at the time, as the years passed, he began to have an advantage over his peers.
He has met Derek Jeter, been on the field at the World Series and even went back-and-forth hitting off a tee at Yankee Stadium with Alex Rodriguez,
“You are around it and get a lot more practice,” Mahomes said. “I was just having fun with my dad, throwing baseballs around.”
Pat Mahomes added: “He basically grew up in the clubhouse with me. When he turned 5 years old, I was playing with the Mets at the time and we went to the NLCS, and then the next year to the World Series.
“For me to be honest, though, I never thought he would be a football player.”
LINK
This article is a pretty good breakdown of Mahomes but the most important part is at the end.
quote:
Mahomes has all the tools. After watching the tape, it's hard to deny it. How his skill set will translate into an NFL offense—where he will have to learn a full playbook, study protections and learn to identify an endless range of defensive coverages—remains to be seen. A few mock drafts have Mahomes being selected on day two of the draft, where he can likely sit behind an already established quarterback. All of it adds up to make Mahomes one of the most intriguing prospects in the draft.
Meet Patrick Mahomes II
Posted on 2/12/17 at 5:31 pm to Louisianabound88
I 100% don't want us drafting a QB. I about 200% don't want us drafting Deshone fricking Kizer. I don't think he'll be a good NFL QB at all, and a lot of experts are hyping him up WAY WAY too much. I'd completely stay away from him, and you suggesting we take him in the 2nd round when we need to go pretty much all defense is pretty embarrassing.
Posted on 2/12/17 at 6:42 pm to Louisianabound88
Trabisky will be a player...but will take a couple of years, like Aaron Rogers...good feet/speed, good size. strong arm, accurate...could us another year of college, but he will go in the first so he'd be dumb not to come out.
Posted on 2/12/17 at 6:57 pm to djmicrobe
quote:
Vince Young looked really good against a USC Defense that have many future NFL players on their defense. Young showed what he can do against NFL players.
Remember that. Very dangerous to judge a player on one game.
Posted on 2/12/17 at 7:32 pm to Louisianabound88
Overrated. Do not want
Posted on 2/12/17 at 7:56 pm to Louisianabound88
I happen to like Kizer. I like seeing him make tough throws from the pocket. Live arm and can eat up yards whenever he tucks and runs.
But I'm not sure he processes the game fast enough to hold up against NFL defenses.
If he slides all the way to the 3rd round, might need to grab him up.
But I'm not sure he processes the game fast enough to hold up against NFL defenses.
If he slides all the way to the 3rd round, might need to grab him up.
Posted on 2/12/17 at 8:19 pm to Eman5805
Yeah I'd take him in the 2nd or 3rd round for sure ( I'm also of the mindset that it'll probably take too long for a bunch of young defensive players to really click before Brees is done with us). He has a lot of prototype skills that I think could be groomed into a productive NFL qb in a few years, especially if he somehow fell to 2nd.
This post was edited on 2/12/17 at 8:24 pm
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News