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re: Cooks/Beckham vs. Benjamin/Robinson/Matthews

Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by Meateye
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:09 pm to
I'm just gonna leave this here....



























Posted by GOON
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:18 pm to


This one is insane
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:19 pm to
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Benjamin has so much bust potential to me.

Agreed. How many dropped balls is ok? If we do take a WR in the 1st, I want it to be Cooks, OBJ, or Matthews.

Somebody mentioned CB in the 1st and Moncrief in the 2nd which would be good. I'd rather the Saints to go CB in the 1st and use the extra 5th with their 2nd to move up and take Matthews in the 2nd. That would be perfect imo.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:22 pm to
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. I'd rather the Saints to go CB in the 1st and use the extra 5th with their 2nd to move up and take Matthews in the 2nd. That would be perfect imo.


Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

This one is insane


He did shite like that all the time. I've said it before and I'll say it again, this guy is going to have a bigger impact than any other WR in the draft. Watch and see. He feels more than one need, he does returns, runs out of the backfield and is an awesome WR. We have got to get this guy!!


He's like Sproles, mixed with A.J. green
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:29 pm to
Meat if you don't stop pumping this guy he will not be around when we pick.
This IS tigerdroppings.com ya know.
Posted by mm2316
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:29 pm to
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I'd rather the Saints to go CB in the 1st and use the extra 5th with their 2nd to move up and take Matthews in the 2nd.

The furthest we could move in the 2nd using one of the 5th round picks is about 2-3 spots. Using both we could possibly move up 6 spots. Probably not worth it, IMO.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:30 pm to
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Meat if you don't stop pumping this guy he will not be around when we pick. This IS tigerdroppings.com ya know.


Cant help it he's so damn badass!
Posted by htran90
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:31 pm to
Issue is his arrow is pointing upward and some mocks have him going to the jets...

If we get him, we're gonna need to hop up like san fran did last year.

They did 31->18 for 1st and 3rd.

Maybe we can work out a deal with someone for 1st, 4th, and 2 5ths
Posted by iAmThatMan
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:41 pm to
Like I posted before..Ever since this I've had MAD respect for Jordan Matthews..

First this...


Then this...


Finally this...


This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 3:42 pm
Posted by mm2316
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:42 pm to
That's a lot of picks to give up for a team with several big contracts over the next few years. I feel like instead of trading up in this draft, we may look to trade back in order to add smaller contracts.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:46 pm to
Say 17th vs. 27th

4yr/8.7mil

vs

4yr/7.6mil

not too big of a difference.

that 5th year option is important as well
Posted by mattgr1983
Austin, Tx
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:54 pm to
Too many solid receivers to waste picks moving up for one guy.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:58 pm to
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I'd rather the Saints to go CB in the 1st


Same here.


Then pick the best WR available in the 2nd.
Posted by mm2316
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 4:02 pm to
Sorry, I wasn't too clear.

I didn't mean the salary difference between 27 and 17. I meant the difference between the 4th, 2 5ths, over 3 veterans (assuming the rookies make the team). We tend to do pretty well in the mid rounds, so having 3 players on rookie deals, as opposed to 3 vets could save some money for us.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 4:03 pm
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 4:04 pm to
I like Benjamin to replace Colston

then Moncrief in the 3rd to stretch the field
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 4:40 pm to
Jimmy Johnson said it best. The draft is a crap shoot. You want as many throws as possible.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 4:49 pm to
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We ranked 12 in red zone scoring percentage last year.


Since when did being 12 out of 32 teams become a bad thing??

HTran im with ya... I think Benjamin has the biggest bust factor going for him. Agree with all the reasons you listed. He doesnt bring anything to the position except height. There are guys only an inch or 2 shorter that are way more complete at WR. I see Benjamin and Evans being compared to VJax. I see it with Evans, not with KB. People dont realize how big of a freak VJax really is / was in college.

And we already have a speedster in Stills, so I dont see the need for a guy like Cooks or OBJ. Its funny when people say Stills is a possession WR, not a deep threat, and doesnt play as fast as he is. He led the NFL in YPC as a rookie. Stupid when peopel say hes not a burner or whatever. Thats exactly what he is.

RandalThor, I think Matthews is the 3rd best WR also. I woudnt mind if we take him at 27. Not one bit. IMO, hes the best fit for our offense and can come in and play immediately. Great size, speed, hands, and route running. And best of all for me, he is reliable and clutch in the big moment. He wants the ball thrown his way in crunch time. He can grasp the offense and is already polished to the point where he can play as a starter day 1. Cant say the same for most of the WRs in this class. He reminds me so much of Reggie Wayne, and is taller by a few inches.

I like Moncrief as well... but hes also tough to figure out as well production wise. Big, strong, fast, and athletic as hell. But never really became that monster on the field that you think he would be.

Graham, Colston, Matthews, and Stills, with Brees throwing them the ball.... good luck trying to stop us.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 5:05 pm
Posted by CharethCutestory
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2014
48 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

Matthews or Donte Moncrief in the 2nd would be sweet. I'm a little more intrigued by Moncrief myself....6'2"- 220lbs. and runs a 4.4.


This is what I think too. I am starting to seriously doubt Matthews will be around with our 2nd rounder, but Moncrief intrigues me.
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