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Building a team through Free Agency over Drafting
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:26 pm
New Orleans Saints 2016 roster
Position Name Height Weight How acquired
Total players (92)
QBs (4)
QB1 Drew Brees 6-0 209 FA-06-SD
QB2 Luke McCown 6-4 217 FA-13-ATL
QB3 Garrett Grayson 6-2 220 3 (75) - 15
QB4 Griffin Neal 6-4 220 FA-16
RBs (10)
RB1 Mark Ingram 5-9 215 1 (28)-11
RB2 C.J. Spiller 5-11 200 FA-15-BUF
RB3 Travaris Cadet 6-1 210 FA-15
RB4 Tim Hightower 6-0 220 FA-15
RB5 Marcus Murphy 5-9 195 7 (230) - 15
RB6 Daniel Lasco 6-0 209 7 (237)-16
RB7 Vick Ballard 5-10 224 FA-16
FB1 Austin Johnson 6-2 240 FA-15
FB2 Toben Opurum 6-1 250 FA-15
FB3 Sione Houma 6-0 243 UDFA-16
WRs (11)
WR1 Brandin Cooks 5-10 189 1 (20)-14
WR2 Michael Thomas 6-3 212 2 (47)-16
WR3 Willie Snead 5-11 195 FA-14
WR4 Brandon Coleman 6-6 225 UDFA-14
WR5 Reggie Bell 5-11 201 FA-15
WR6 Shane Wynn 5-6 167 FA-15
WR7 R.J. Harris 6-0 194 FA-16
WR8 Kyle Prater 6-5 231 FA-16
WR9 Jared Dangerfield 6-3 215 UDFA-16
WR10 Tommylee Lewis 5-7 168 UDFA-16
WR11 Jordan Williams-Lambert 6-3 228 UDFA-16
TEs (6)
TE1 Coby Fleener 6-6 251 FA-16
TE2 Josh Hill 6-5 250 UDFA-13
TE3 Michael Hoomanawanui 6-4 265 TR-15-NE
TE4 Jack Tabb 6-3 250 UDFA-15
TE5 RaShaun Allen 6-4 250 FA-15
TE6 Chris Manhertz 6-6 255 FA-15
OL (14)
LT Terron Armstead 6-5 304 3 (75)-13
LG Tim Lelito 6-4 315 UDFA-13
C Max Unger 6-5 305 TR-15-SEA
RG Senio Kelemete 6-3 300 FA-13-AZ
RT Zach Strief 6-7 320 7 (210)-06
T3 Andrus Peat 6-7 316 1 (13)-15
T4 Bryan Witzmann 6-7 311 FA-15
T5 Joseph Cheek 6-7 311 UDFA-16
T6 Ryker Mathews 6-6 320 UDFA-16
T7 Avery Young 6-6 305 UDFA-16
G3 Cyril Lemon 6-3 315 UDFA-15
G4 Landon Turner 6-4 325 UDFA-15
C2 Jack Allen 6-2 296 UDFA-16
C3 Marcus Henry 6-3 293 UDFA-16
DL (13)
DE Cameron Jordan 6-4 287 1 (24)-11
NT John Jenkins 6-3 359 3 (82)-13
DT Sheldon Rankins 6-2 304 1 (13)-16
DE Bobby Richardson 6-3 286 UDFA-15
DT3 Nick Fairley 6-4 308 FA-16
DT4 Tyeler Davison 6-2 309 5 (154) - 15
DT5 David Onyemata 6-4 300 4 (120)-16
DT6 Kaleb Eulls 6-4 285 UDFA-15
DT7 Ashaad Mabry 6-3 315 UDFA-15
DE3 Obum Gwacham 6-5 249 WAI-15-SEA
DE4 Phillip Hunt 6-1 258 FA-16
DE5 Mitchell Loewen 6-5 275 UDFA-16
DE6 D.J. Pettway 6-2 270 UDFA-16
LBs (12)
MLB James Laurinaitis 6-2 248 FA-16
WLB Dannell Ellerbe 6-1 245 TR-15-MIA
SLB Stephone Anthony 6-3 245 1 (31) - 15
LB4 Nate Stupar 6-2 240 FA-16
LB5 Craig Robertson 6-1 234 FA-16
LB6 Michael Mauti 6-2 243 WAI-15-MIN
LB7 Dillon Lee 6-4 242 UDFA-16
LB8 Jeff Schoettmer 6-2 235 UDFA-16
LB9 Dominique Tovell 6-1 232 UDFA-16
OLB2 Hau'oli Kikaha 6-3 246 2 (44) - 15
OLB3 Kasim Edebali 6-2 253 UDFA-14
OLB4 Davis Tull 6-3 240 5 (148) - 15
DBs (18)
CB Delvin Breaux 6-1 196 FA-15-CFL
CB Keenan Lewis 6-1 208 FA-13-PIT
FS Jairus Byrd 5-10 203 FA-14-BUF
SS Kenny Vaccaro 6-0 214 1 (15)-13
CB3 Kyle Wilson 5-10 190 FA-15-NYJ
CB4 Damian Swann 6-0 189 5 (167) - 15
CB5 Brian Dixon 6-0 195 UDFA-14
CB6 P.J. Williams 6-0 196 3 (78) - 15
CB7 Tony Carter 5-9 175 FA-16
CB8 Brandon Dixon 5-11 203 FA-15
CB9 Ken Crawley 6-1 180 UDFA-16
CB10 De'Vante Harris 5-11 190 UDFA-16
FS2 Vonn Bell 5-11 205 2 (61)-16
FS3 Alden Darby 5-10 192 FA-15
FS4 Trae Elston 5-11 176 UDFA-16
SS2 Jamarca Sanford 5-10 200 FA-14
SS3 Erik Harris 6-3 225 FA-16
SS4 Mike Caputo 6-1 206 UDFA-16
STs (4)
P Thomas Morstead 6-4 235 5 (164)-09
K1 Kai Forbath 5-11 197 FA-15
K2 Josh Scobee 6-1 200 FA-16
LS Justin Drescher 6-1 235 FA-10
My Point is most teams try to build through the draft but the Saints are not one of them. We obviously prefer the Free Agent Market over the Combine and NFL Draft
Position Name Height Weight How acquired
Total players (92)
QBs (4)
QB1 Drew Brees 6-0 209 FA-06-SD
QB2 Luke McCown 6-4 217 FA-13-ATL
QB3 Garrett Grayson 6-2 220 3 (75) - 15
QB4 Griffin Neal 6-4 220 FA-16
RBs (10)
RB1 Mark Ingram 5-9 215 1 (28)-11
RB2 C.J. Spiller 5-11 200 FA-15-BUF
RB3 Travaris Cadet 6-1 210 FA-15
RB4 Tim Hightower 6-0 220 FA-15
RB5 Marcus Murphy 5-9 195 7 (230) - 15
RB6 Daniel Lasco 6-0 209 7 (237)-16
RB7 Vick Ballard 5-10 224 FA-16
FB1 Austin Johnson 6-2 240 FA-15
FB2 Toben Opurum 6-1 250 FA-15
FB3 Sione Houma 6-0 243 UDFA-16
WRs (11)
WR1 Brandin Cooks 5-10 189 1 (20)-14
WR2 Michael Thomas 6-3 212 2 (47)-16
WR3 Willie Snead 5-11 195 FA-14
WR4 Brandon Coleman 6-6 225 UDFA-14
WR5 Reggie Bell 5-11 201 FA-15
WR6 Shane Wynn 5-6 167 FA-15
WR7 R.J. Harris 6-0 194 FA-16
WR8 Kyle Prater 6-5 231 FA-16
WR9 Jared Dangerfield 6-3 215 UDFA-16
WR10 Tommylee Lewis 5-7 168 UDFA-16
WR11 Jordan Williams-Lambert 6-3 228 UDFA-16
TEs (6)
TE1 Coby Fleener 6-6 251 FA-16
TE2 Josh Hill 6-5 250 UDFA-13
TE3 Michael Hoomanawanui 6-4 265 TR-15-NE
TE4 Jack Tabb 6-3 250 UDFA-15
TE5 RaShaun Allen 6-4 250 FA-15
TE6 Chris Manhertz 6-6 255 FA-15
OL (14)
LT Terron Armstead 6-5 304 3 (75)-13
LG Tim Lelito 6-4 315 UDFA-13
C Max Unger 6-5 305 TR-15-SEA
RG Senio Kelemete 6-3 300 FA-13-AZ
RT Zach Strief 6-7 320 7 (210)-06
T3 Andrus Peat 6-7 316 1 (13)-15
T4 Bryan Witzmann 6-7 311 FA-15
T5 Joseph Cheek 6-7 311 UDFA-16
T6 Ryker Mathews 6-6 320 UDFA-16
T7 Avery Young 6-6 305 UDFA-16
G3 Cyril Lemon 6-3 315 UDFA-15
G4 Landon Turner 6-4 325 UDFA-15
C2 Jack Allen 6-2 296 UDFA-16
C3 Marcus Henry 6-3 293 UDFA-16
DL (13)
DE Cameron Jordan 6-4 287 1 (24)-11
NT John Jenkins 6-3 359 3 (82)-13
DT Sheldon Rankins 6-2 304 1 (13)-16
DE Bobby Richardson 6-3 286 UDFA-15
DT3 Nick Fairley 6-4 308 FA-16
DT4 Tyeler Davison 6-2 309 5 (154) - 15
DT5 David Onyemata 6-4 300 4 (120)-16
DT6 Kaleb Eulls 6-4 285 UDFA-15
DT7 Ashaad Mabry 6-3 315 UDFA-15
DE3 Obum Gwacham 6-5 249 WAI-15-SEA
DE4 Phillip Hunt 6-1 258 FA-16
DE5 Mitchell Loewen 6-5 275 UDFA-16
DE6 D.J. Pettway 6-2 270 UDFA-16
LBs (12)
MLB James Laurinaitis 6-2 248 FA-16
WLB Dannell Ellerbe 6-1 245 TR-15-MIA
SLB Stephone Anthony 6-3 245 1 (31) - 15
LB4 Nate Stupar 6-2 240 FA-16
LB5 Craig Robertson 6-1 234 FA-16
LB6 Michael Mauti 6-2 243 WAI-15-MIN
LB7 Dillon Lee 6-4 242 UDFA-16
LB8 Jeff Schoettmer 6-2 235 UDFA-16
LB9 Dominique Tovell 6-1 232 UDFA-16
OLB2 Hau'oli Kikaha 6-3 246 2 (44) - 15
OLB3 Kasim Edebali 6-2 253 UDFA-14
OLB4 Davis Tull 6-3 240 5 (148) - 15
DBs (18)
CB Delvin Breaux 6-1 196 FA-15-CFL
CB Keenan Lewis 6-1 208 FA-13-PIT
FS Jairus Byrd 5-10 203 FA-14-BUF
SS Kenny Vaccaro 6-0 214 1 (15)-13
CB3 Kyle Wilson 5-10 190 FA-15-NYJ
CB4 Damian Swann 6-0 189 5 (167) - 15
CB5 Brian Dixon 6-0 195 UDFA-14
CB6 P.J. Williams 6-0 196 3 (78) - 15
CB7 Tony Carter 5-9 175 FA-16
CB8 Brandon Dixon 5-11 203 FA-15
CB9 Ken Crawley 6-1 180 UDFA-16
CB10 De'Vante Harris 5-11 190 UDFA-16
FS2 Vonn Bell 5-11 205 2 (61)-16
FS3 Alden Darby 5-10 192 FA-15
FS4 Trae Elston 5-11 176 UDFA-16
SS2 Jamarca Sanford 5-10 200 FA-14
SS3 Erik Harris 6-3 225 FA-16
SS4 Mike Caputo 6-1 206 UDFA-16
STs (4)
P Thomas Morstead 6-4 235 5 (164)-09
K1 Kai Forbath 5-11 197 FA-15
K2 Josh Scobee 6-1 200 FA-16
LS Justin Drescher 6-1 235 FA-10
My Point is most teams try to build through the draft but the Saints are not one of them. We obviously prefer the Free Agent Market over the Combine and NFL Draft
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:28 pm to Merlin08
I'm willing to say that if this team ever learned how to draft consistently since 2006, we probably win another Super Bowl. We've had so many misses that even just a general average contribution from potential picks could have pushed us over the edge. We love FA's but when they either don't work out, suck, or get injured, we're screwed because we have barely any depth.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:37 pm to Merlin08
Most of those are udfas so they're technically were/are part of the draft process.
Most of what is shaping up to be the core was drafted with a pick
Most of what is shaping up to be the core was drafted with a pick
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:38 pm to Merlin08
You could have made your point without that tower of bullshite.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:48 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
quote:
I'm willing to say that if this team ever learned how to draft consistently since 2006, we probably win another Super Bowl. We've had so many misses that even just a general average contribution from potential picks could have pushed us over the edge. We love FA's but when they either don't work out, suck, or get injured, we're screwed because we have barely any depth.
2011 (post Jordan/Ingram), 2012, and 2014 were the killer drafts.
2011: Wilson, Patrick (3rd), 4th -> traded for Matt Tennant (drafted '10 5th), 5th -> part of the jammal brown trade, 6th -> David Thomas
2012: Hicks, Toon, White, Tiller, Jones -> completely gone
2014: everyone after cooks
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:14 pm to Merlin08
quote:
My Point is most teams try to build through the draft
Where is your data to support this claim? Green Bay is constantly being mentioned as the only team that doesn't really participate in Free Agency because they try to exclusively build through the draft. Every other team builds through a combination of both. You can't make statements as fact without backing them up with evidence.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:17 pm to Merlin08
Exhaustive, unnecessary list are en vouge nowadays.
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:44 pm to Merlin08
You couldn't have made that point without giving the board a collective migraine trying to read that?
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:46 pm to Merlin08
Dude just listed the entire Saints roster. you might as well put the coaching staff up there too
Posted on 5/3/16 at 6:24 pm to Merlin08
Isn't it crazy how many people blew Mickey loomis over the years?
Posted on 5/3/16 at 7:13 pm to Merlin08
I like our team. 1 more solid offseason and we could be legit.
Basic Foundation
QB Drew
RB Ingram
WR Cooks, Thomas, Snead
TE Fleener
OL Armstead, Unger, Peat
Good for now - Lelito, Strief, Hill
Sleeper Spiller
Upside Stash - Grayson, Lasco, Turner, Allen
Basic Foundation
DL Jordan, Rankins
LB Anthony
CB Breaux
S Vaccaro, Bell
Good for now - Fairley, Ellerbe, Lewis
Sleeper Byrd
Upside Stash - Kikaha, Onyemata, Tull, Williams
Offense has Top 5 written all over it and the D has to be better.
Fairley + Rankins > 35 year old Kevin Williams
PJ Williams > 2015 Browner
2016 Lewis > 2015 Lewis same can be applied for Byrd
2015 rookie class year 2 > year 1
Basic Foundation
QB Drew
RB Ingram
WR Cooks, Thomas, Snead
TE Fleener
OL Armstead, Unger, Peat
Good for now - Lelito, Strief, Hill
Sleeper Spiller
Upside Stash - Grayson, Lasco, Turner, Allen
Basic Foundation
DL Jordan, Rankins
LB Anthony
CB Breaux
S Vaccaro, Bell
Good for now - Fairley, Ellerbe, Lewis
Sleeper Byrd
Upside Stash - Kikaha, Onyemata, Tull, Williams
Offense has Top 5 written all over it and the D has to be better.
Fairley + Rankins > 35 year old Kevin Williams
PJ Williams > 2015 Browner
2016 Lewis > 2015 Lewis same can be applied for Byrd
2015 rookie class year 2 > year 1
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