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re: Bounty Punishment Announced: Sean Payton SUSPENDED 1 YEAR
Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:13 pm to JasonL79
Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:13 pm to JasonL79
quote:This is the type of emotional thinking that is wrong with our society today. They are paid big money in their contracts to play football with no intent on injuring players, though everyone knows that incidental injuries happen. Paying someone under the table specifically to injure a player is not the game of football--it is hiring a hit man. And doing so is way worse than stealing a playbook.
This is the type of emotional thinking that is wrong with our society today. How were they hitmen? They are paid big money in their contracts to hit players and hit them hard. That is the game of football.
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Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:14 pm to Thracken13
quote:Can you refer to a single contract that has included terms or incentives for injuring opponents?
every defensive player in football that signs a contract is essentially a hitman.
If not, you are wrong.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:15 pm to JasonL79
quote:you are dumb
They are paid big money in their contracts to hit players and hit them hard. That is the game of football.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:19 pm to Nortizzle
quote:Not dumb--just in denial. (First stage)
Posted by Nortizzle quote: They are paid big money in their contracts to hit players and hit them hard. That is the game of football. you are dumb
Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:29 pm to M Le Rip
quote:
Can you refer to a single contract that has included terms or incentives for injuring opponents?
If not, you are wrong.
spelled out explicitly? nope. however, if you believe that isn't implied in some manner, albeit it informaly (as in verbally spoken between the coach and players), then I dunno what to say.
I will say paying players to do it is morally wrong, but then again there is a lot of moral bankruptcy out there.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:35 pm to Thracken13
quote:And by not keeping it implied, and by saying "frick you" to the league who offered them a mulligan if they stopped, the Saints screwed themselves royally. They got exactly what they asked for. The Saints have not been mistreated here.
spelled out explicitly? nope. however, if you believe that isn't implied in some manner, albeit it informaly (as in verbally spoken between the coach and players), then I dunno what to say.
This post was edited on 3/21/12 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:40 pm to M Le Rip
oh i never said we didnt deserve to be punished - in fact, the objective side of me says we probably came out on the light side of it all....just a year seemed a bit harsh on the HC's suspension.
but the fact of the matter is exactly what you said - we deserved punishment and got it.
i was angry at first, but ive realized it is what it is, and hope we have a decent year next year - despite everything else.
but the fact of the matter is exactly what you said - we deserved punishment and got it.
i was angry at first, but ive realized it is what it is, and hope we have a decent year next year - despite everything else.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:41 pm to M Le Rip
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They are paid big money in their contracts to play football with no intent on injuring players,
Yet most of the NFL would be suspended (the NFL would basically cease to exist) if Goodell punished all the players and coaches who try to take out other players and/or don't stop it from happening.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:41 pm to M Le Rip
Just shouldnt have lied about it. The coverup is always worse than the original crime. They pissed off goodell by lying about it. It sucks bad, but use this to teach your kids about lying and that all is forgiven if you are honest from the start. Lesson learned hopefully.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:43 pm to Nortizzle
quote:
quote:
They are paid big money in their contracts to hit players and hit them hard. That is the game of football.
you are dumb
Says the person calling another poster dumb for disagreeing with their post...
Players aren't paid big money to hit other players in football? And several players and former Saints players have come out and said they had no intent to injure but instead we just believe what the media and Roger Goodell spews.
Jabari Greer had a good interview on the ruling today. Jabari Greer's Interview
Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:51 pm to Thracken13
quote:Agreed on all counts. I'm just not a fan of the "they're already essentially paid to hurt people" argument. There's a clear difference, and there's a clear right and wrong here, and there's no justification for what was done, and the nfl doesn't owe it to Saints fans to make sure that the Saints aren't punished more than another team who did something completely different and unrelated.
Posted by Thracken13 oh i never said we didnt deserve to be punished - in fact, the objective side of me says we probably came out on the light side of it all....just a year seemed a bit harsh on the HC's suspension. but the fact of the matter is exactly what you said - we deserved punishment and got it. i was angry at first, but ive realized it is what it is, and hope we have a decent year next year - despite everything else.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:57 pm to M Le Rip
quote:
And by not keeping it implied, and by saying "frick you" to the league who offered them a mulligan if they stopped, the Saints screwed themselves royally. They got exactly what they asked for. The Saints have not been mistreated here.
Says Goodell. The man preaching safety and wanting to extend the season for more money. Safety = The NFL is being sued for potentially several 100's of millions. It is All about the money! Where Payton and Loomis really fricked up is they gave Goodell a great opportunity to make an example out of the Saints. Other teams and players were doing the same thing, but Goodell is sending a message to the entire League with this punishment against the Saints.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 10:00 pm to s_i5
quote:And I'd probably do the same if I were in Roger's shoes.
Says Goodell. The man preaching safety and wanting to extend the season for more money. Safety = The NFL is being sued for potentially several 100's of millions. It is All about the money! Where Payton and Loomis really fricked up is they gave Goodell a great opportunity to make an example out of the Saints. Other teams and players were doing the same thing, but Goodell is sending a message to the entire League with this punishment against the Saints.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 10:05 pm to M Le Rip
quote:
Agreed on all counts. I'm just not a fan of the "they're already essentially paid to hurt people" argument. There's a clear difference, and there's a clear right and wrong here, and there's no justification for what was done, and the nfl doesn't owe it to Saints fans to make sure that the Saints aren't punished more than another team who did something completely different and unrelated.
So you are saying all teams, coaches, and players who did what the Saints did should be punished in the same manner?
Let me ask you this. How many other NFL teams would be hammered if Goodell got a hard-on for them and went after them?
Posted on 3/21/12 at 10:06 pm to JasonL79
quote:
Hiring hitmen to injure people is worse than cheating in a game
A thousand dollars to a guy who makes millions. All this was, was side bets to talk about something during the week. Kinda of like fantasy football at the office. No one was asked or would it make financial sense to do anything illegal on the field.
Plus if a Player was in the SEC and knocked out a player cold every game in his college career do you think he would be a first round pick? Of course he would, the NFL pays players to knock people out if they can. They celebrate players like Dick Butkus all the time and play interviews were he said he admits to cause serious bodily harm to players of the opposing team. This organizations as glorified the big hit its entire history, then instantly goes crazy with suspensions on the Saints. The NFL is the definition of hypocrite!
Posted on 3/21/12 at 10:08 pm to s_i5
quote:I honestly don't know. I would guess, however, that the Saints are the only team to have had a bounty system, get caught and told to stop, then keep doing it and get caught again. I think all teams who do all that should be treated like bitches.
So you are saying all teams, coaches, and players who did what the Saints did should be punished in the same manner? Let me ask you this. How many other NFL teams would be hammered if Goodell got a hard-on for them and went after them?
Posted on 3/21/12 at 10:11 pm to cssamerican
quote:Nope. There is a clear right and wrong here, and you can't dispute the fact that what the saints did was wrong, unethical, stupid, an potentially harmful to the league. You simply can't justify what they did. Sorry.
A thousand dollars to a guy who makes millions. All this was, was side bets to talk about something during the week. Kinda of like fantasy football at the office. No one was asked or would it make financial sense to do anything illegal on the field. Plus if a Player was in the SEC and knocked out a player cold every game in his college career do you think he would be a first round pick? Of course he would, the NFL pays players to knock people out if they can. They celebrate players like Dick Butkus all the time and play interviews were he said he admits to cause serious bodily harm to players of the opposing team. This organizations as glorified the big hit its entire history, then instantly goes crazy with suspensions on the Saints. The NFL is the definition of hypocrite!
It isn't the NFL's fault that the Saints fricked up. Just take the blow and move on. Payton, Loomis, Vitt, and probably others, and not Roger and the NFL, are the bad guys here.
This post was edited on 3/21/12 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 3/21/12 at 10:16 pm to M Le Rip
quote:I hate it as much as most of the rest of you Saints fans out there, the suspension of SP and whatever else comes is a lot to swallow. But if you think about it, this bounty thing they did isn't a real positive for professional football. It belongs in a second-tier pro wrestling venue, not the NFL. We don't need giant hit-men running around out there. It really could get dangerous.
It isn't the NFL's fault that the Saints fricked up. Just take the blow and move on.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 10:30 pm to JawjaTigah
NFL Films glorification of Deacon Jones
If you are a coach or a player do think the same company that is producing this would suspend the Head Coach of an NFL team for allowing players to run a pool for hard hits? That is what upsets me the most, it is hypocritical on a whole new level!
If you are a coach or a player do think the same company that is producing this would suspend the Head Coach of an NFL team for allowing players to run a pool for hard hits? That is what upsets me the most, it is hypocritical on a whole new level!
Posted on 3/21/12 at 10:30 pm to JawjaTigah
quote:This pretty much sums up how an adult should see this.
I hate it as much as most of the rest of you Saints fans out there, the suspension of SP and whatever else comes is a lot to swallow. But if you think about it, this bounty thing they did isn't a real positive for professional football. It belongs in a second-tier pro wrestling venue, not the NFL. We don't need giant hit-men running around out there. It really could get dangerous.
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