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re: Wolves Closing in on Deal with Casspi

Posted on 3/19/17 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 4:26 pm to
For the sake of argument it appears that we probably weren't willing to offer him the wink, wink deal you've eluded to on Twitter.

I mean it's a little annoying that we don't really have a backup three at the moment, but hardly worth bitching about.

I do hope this means that they've realized Jrue is better off ball and Frazier starts hence the Cook signing. This way you can keep Moore and Crawford coming off the bench. Rotation doesn't change much losing Selden. I still assume Lance is re-signed or some other journeymen 3 to finish the season
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 4:43 pm to
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My argument is give a shite to stuff that matters. When you are always turned up to 11, the things that actually deserve to be discussed at 11 gets lost in the mix

Also, wait. Have patience. In August, we will have a full picture of the roster. If there is no backup SF, then maybe you can retroactively blast the move. But you are reacting to a very incomplete picture

I just want conversations to be more balanced and smarter. I used to apologize for wanting that. Now I just mock and denigrate the idiots instead. And will continue to do so


What is the downside to having hung onto Casspi?

That is what I am struggling with?

You let Casspi rehab and maybe he comes back this season and maybe not. But at least going into the offseason you have the inside track on this guy if your other upgrade paths close down on you. All at a position we have historically struggled to find quality and depth at. That by all accounts will not require a hefty salary.

Is it a make or break choice? No, but it does seem like a choice that reduces flexibility. That can only really be rationalized as the FO putting an exorbitant amount of emphasis on the playoffs. To the point we would rather gamble on the 10-day contract game that has a low probability of success(keeping Casspi wouldnt of prevented Crawford) compared to what we would already have under contract. That or our medical staff once again did a very poor job of evaluating the rehab time of Casspi.
This post was edited on 3/19/17 at 4:44 pm
Posted by oncealurker
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2013
5060 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 4:45 pm to
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see a drastic improvement on this board since I started calling the crap out and making you raise your arguments


You sound like of one my professors from law school
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
4178 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 4:59 pm to
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When you are always turned up to 11, the things that actually deserve to be discussed at 11 gets lost in the mix

Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34248 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 5:00 pm to
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You have really great insight and info


He doesn't, though. He has loaded info.
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9232 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 6:42 pm to
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Crewz


The troll that PT needs but not the one that it deserves.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 3/19/17 at 7:09 pm to
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The troll that PT needs but not the one that it deserves.

HeadyBrosevelt >>>>>>>>>>>> Crewz
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/19/17 at 7:12 pm to
Also Boom has to be GOAT troll right?
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11854 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:26 am to
Just saw that Casspi signed with TWolves for league minimum, so it was not for the money as some suggested. I cannot understand why he went there.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:38 am to
Casspi taking on a roster spot might have prevented instant grits from finding his foothold here with the team. He's had one season with a positive net rating (+1). 0 seasons with a 15 (league average) or higher PER. I'm not sure why some heralded him as the SF we needed. He's a decent shooter lacking the D in 3 and D.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11854 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:44 am to
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Casspi taking on a roster spot might have prevented instant grits from finding his foothold here with the team. He's had one season with a positive net rating (+1). 0 seasons with a 15 (league average) or higher PER. I'm not sure why some heralded him as the SF we needed. He's a decent shooter lacking the D in 3 and D.
Don't see how. Crawford replaced Jack when Jack got injured (before Casspi was released). Casspi was replaced by Williams (who hardly ever even played).
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32383 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:50 am to
I'm gonna let it go for the moment, but I don't see who they can get for cheap that would be a better backup SF. I'll wait to see how it plays out.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22396 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:50 am to
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Also Boom has to be GOAT troll right?



The only thing that would cost him that is if he is real. Otherwise, without a doubt, one of the greatest trolls ive ever witnessed.
Posted by LilWezyAna
BR
Member since Feb 2016
3139 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:57 am to
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And if I have to be hated for that to happen, I am more than willing to be hated


lol stop trying to convince yourself that you are a hero or martyr or something, we hate you because you suck and that helps nothing on the board

Your information might help occasionally, but it's mostly just hot takes, but anything other than insider information just makes people hate you, you deserve no credit for the board getting better
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:05 am to
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Don't see how. Crawford replaced Jack when Jack got injured (before Casspi was released). Casspi was replaced by Williams (who hardly ever even played).


You're looking at it from a very narrow line perspective. Crawford is playing the 2/3 tweener role in the Gentry offense. The level he's playing at right now has a very "stars aligned" feel to it. Considering it's essentially a revolving 10 day door, the decision to remove Casspi from the equation had some impact.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:10 am to
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Casspi taking on a roster spot might have prevented instant grits from finding his foothold here with the team. He's had one season with a positive net rating (+1). 0 seasons with a 15 (league average) or higher PER. I'm not sure why some heralded him as the SF we needed. He's a decent shooter lacking the D in 3 and D.


Well that is a funny and lazy analysis
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:34 am to
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Well that is a funny and lazy analysis


What's funny or lazy about it? Has he played on bad teams? Yes. Can good players put up advanced stats on bad teams? Yes. Let's not forget he REFUSED to play for us the first time we traded for him. Do you want me to go break down tape of some dude over in Minnesota who played one game for the Pels to provide you insight on his defensive deficiencies?

I don't know what's going on with you, but you've been crotchety lately. It's disappointing as your opinion was one of a few I actually looked forward to reading 100% of the time.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 11:01 am
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11854 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:06 am to
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You're looking at it from a very narrow line perspective. Crawford is playing the 2/3 tweener role in the Gentry offense. The level he's playing at right now has a very "stars aligned" feel to it. Considering it's essentially a revolving 10 day door, the decision to remove Casspi from the equation had some impact.
Still don't see how you are coming to that conclusion. Crawford would have gotten the exact same opportunity as Casspi was injured (and thought to be out for a while). Crawford has already established his role.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:15 am to
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Still don't see how you are coming to that conclusion. Crawford would have gotten the exact same opportunity as Casspi was injured (and thought to be out for a while). Crawford has already established his role.


Let's assume we didn't waive Casspi. The amount of roster spots gets cut obviously. You're making the assumption that Crawford was higher on the list than Williams. When Casspi was getting back into game shape, how does that shift the practice time? I'm not saying releasing Casspi was the catalyst to the Crawford explosion. I'm saying a guy who's been out of the league for 2 years coming in and just shooting straight fire needed every bit of every decision to go a certain way. No one, literally everyone but Jordan Crawford probably, could have predicted him coming in and having the impact he has.

ETA: Since I think you're misunderstanding the point. Put simply, Crawford's play is so absurdly efficient for a guy not playing 2 years...there has to be some degree of Butterfly Effect with this. He's playing at that high of a level on offense.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 11:21 am
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:24 am to
He can play at the level he did in GSW and BOS and would still be a great addition.

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