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Why is everyone praising Pat Riley?
Posted on 2/20/15 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 2/20/15 at 3:48 pm
Dell trades 2 1st round picks for a young all star on a long term deal and he gets shite on for years for it.
Then he trades 1 1st round pick for Asik and everyone shits on him because he's not on a long term deal.
Pat Riley trades 2 1st round picks and half his bench for an almost 30 guard who couldn't make the Allstar team even in his prime and who is only under contract for 3 months and everyone in the media is blowing him.
What gives?
Then he trades 1 1st round pick for Asik and everyone shits on him because he's not on a long term deal.
Pat Riley trades 2 1st round picks and half his bench for an almost 30 guard who couldn't make the Allstar team even in his prime and who is only under contract for 3 months and everyone in the media is blowing him.
What gives?
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Posted on 2/20/15 at 3:52 pm to sma19
Heat bench has been awful, so why not send most of it packing. Whatever it takes to get a PG they desperately need.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:00 pm to c on z
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Heat bench has been awful, so why not send most of it packing. Whatever it takes to get a PG they desperately need.
Fair enough, but even then, just look at the trade as just Cole and 2 firsts and my point stands
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:00 pm to sma19
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who couldn't make the Allstar team even in his prime
3rd team all NBA >>>>> All star popularity contest
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:06 pm to sma19
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Dell trades 2 1st round picks for a young all star on a long term deal and he gets shite on for years for it.
You've spinned this nicely
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Pat Riley trades 2 1st round picks and half his bench for an almost 30 guard who couldn't make the Allstar team even in his prime and who is only under contract for 3 months and everyone in the media is blowing him.
You've spinned this nicely
Try this
Pat Riley uncovered the gem that is Hassan Whiteside
Dell Demps has discovered Jeff Withey and Greg Stiemsma
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:11 pm to GynoSandberg
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Pat Riley uncovered the gem that is Hassan Whiteside Dell Demps has discovered Jeff Withey and Greg Stiemsma
Guys been solid for sure, great find for him, not sure how this relates to this trade
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:13 pm to sma19
2 Reasons:
1. Miami, if healthy, would be a very scary team. Probably not a title contender, but very good.
2. Timing
You can easily question the health factor, giving Dragic a 5 year max, and unloading an unprotected 2021 1st. But Riley won't be there in 6 years. They're going for broke at the tail end of the career of the best player in franchise history.
They capped themselves out with a proven, if somewhat diminished foundation. The Pels capped themselves out with just the idea of a foundation.
1. Miami, if healthy, would be a very scary team. Probably not a title contender, but very good.
2. Timing
You can easily question the health factor, giving Dragic a 5 year max, and unloading an unprotected 2021 1st. But Riley won't be there in 6 years. They're going for broke at the tail end of the career of the best player in franchise history.
They capped themselves out with a proven, if somewhat diminished foundation. The Pels capped themselves out with just the idea of a foundation.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:15 pm to MSMHater
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3rd team all NBA >>>>> All star popularity contest
+1 Holiday will never sniff 3rd team all NBA.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:15 pm to GynoSandberg
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Dell Demps has discovered Jeff Withey and Greg Stiemsma
At least be fair about it. Dell Demps discovered Ayon, Ajinca and Babbitt.
As to the OP, are these Miami's own picks? 6 and 10, especially when 10 was in the "best draft since LeBron and Melo" vs. 2 picks in the late teens is pretty different.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:18 pm to corndeaux
I agree that it's a good trade for the team to get better for right now, but I feel like he's not getting any flack for sacrificing the future for a non gauranteed player.
I see your point about going all in for wade, hadn't thought about that perspective.
I see your point about going all in for wade, hadn't thought about that perspective.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:23 pm to TigerinATL
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As to the OP, are these Miami's own picks? 6 and 10, especially when 10 was in the "best draft since LeBron and Melo" vs. 2 picks in the late teens is pretty different.
This is another thing I can't seem to find, what year are the picks for and are they miami's? Cause if they're for 2018 or later then they very well could be a lottery team in those seasons with an older injury prone core.
Very true about the picks being less valuable as ours were though
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:27 pm to sma19
The 2nd one is a 2021 unprotected pick. That's very interesting.
I feel like the first one is a 2017 or 18 pick because they owe earlier picks. Not sure about the protections.
I feel like the first one is a 2017 or 18 pick because they owe earlier picks. Not sure about the protections.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:28 pm to sma19
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any flack for sacrificing the future for a non gauranteed player.
Dragic will likely re-sign. If the rumors about his list are true, Miami will max him out and he will take it.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:32 pm to corndeaux
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Miami will max him out and he will take it.
Which may be a compounding of errors
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:35 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
You have more margin for error in the East.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:35 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Boomshockalocka
Go away
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:35 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Yep. That 4th/5th year will likely be a poor return of investment
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:36 pm to TigerinATL
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You have more margin for error in the East.
To get there, but not to win it.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:41 pm to TigerinATL
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You have more margin for error in the East.
I wouldn't take it for granted if I were the Heat though.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 4:49 pm to corndeaux
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1. Miami, if healthy, would be a very scary team. Probably not a title contender, but very good.
Miami, if healthy, is nowhere near as good as the Pels when healthy.
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