Which Ryno trade do you like the best?

HTF does anybody downvote what I just typed?

Our worst "asset" right now is Asik. We need to get rid of that fricking contract, and anybody associated with drafting and approving that contract needs to be fired ASAP.

It was graded as a "D" or an "F" by most analysts and that was before Asik has continued sucking all year long.

And I don't think these FA bigs are going to get as much as you think they are. The NBA has changed dramatically in the past 2 years. Monroe is twice the player that Asik is (actually, he's 2.3 times the player that Asik is) and even he didn't exactly break the bank last offseason. Just proves what a shitty contract it was to lock up Omer for that long and for that much.

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but not bad for the league and what tier he's in.

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The "useless in the last 5 minutes of the game and fairly useless the entire rest of the game" tier?

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Asik has continued sucking all year long.

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It took him about a month to get into shape which is ridiculous, but since then he's played like we were hoping for the most part. His rebounding is getting back to where it should be and his at the rim FG% is 60%.

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I don't think these FA bigs are going to get as much as you think they are

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It's a supply demand thing though. $600 million in cap space is being added to the pot next year and the headliners are guys like Nic Batum and Mike Conley. Ryno and Hassan Whiteside, 2 guys who never would see max money under the old cap have both been talked about as potential max candidates. One national writer thinks Gordon could get $20 million.

Then the following year another $600 million is getting dumped into the pot. There will be more true headliners chasing that money in 2017, so that might help some, but the fact of the matter is just 2 years ago in the 2013-14 season the salary cap was at $58 million. In 2017 it is projected to be $108 million, and some people think that could go up. That's an 85% increase in just 4 years.

Could center go the way of the running back in the NFL? Possibly. But we allegedly have a coach and GM that want to commit to Space and Pace of the modern era and they still both seemed to think signing 2 7 footers long term was a good idea. Zaza has been a difference maker for the Mavs this year, you think teams are going to be able to low ball him because 1 or 2 teams can make him useless? You still need 7 footers for the regular season and certain matchups in the playoffs, and with the MLE being severely devalued with the flood of cap money, I just have a hard time thinking that the deals Koufos and Asik got under a $70 million cap will be the high water mark for non star centers as the cap escalates almost $40 million more.

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Monroe is twice the player that Asik is and even he didn't exactly break the bank last offseason.

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Ummm...He didn't get max years, but he did get max money. Max as in they couldn't legally offer him any more money.

Morris on that contract is stealing money under the new cap going forward

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The problem is he is a total PoS

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A bit hyperbolic yes?

What's your issues with him?

We can all agree that we're uncomfortable with how much money we committed to Asik. What if Asik made 6.8 mill this year instead? I think most would agree that's a pretty reasonable bargain and more in line with his skill set.

Well consider this: currently Asik is getting paid about 9.2 a year. Under a 70 million cap, that's roughly 13% of the cap. In 2017, Asik will be paid 10.5. If the cap hits the projected 108 million threshold, Asik will make up about 9.7% of the cap space. If you take 9.7% of the current cap, you get 6.8 million. All the sudden Asik's contract looks reasonable.

The last two years with Gordon has shown that Demps won't sell for the sake of selling a bad contract if it means he's selling low. He is willing to sit on an asset until the value rebounds near it's expiration. Asik will be much easier to move his last two years, especially considering that only 3 million is guaranteed in his final year, than now and we most likely won't have to strap any value just to dump him.

I'm not completely agreeing with Dell's decision to give him that much money, just simply showing his line of thinking. Expect to see Asik for the next couple of years

They should have been forced to give us their 1st rounder as compensation for that bullshite they pulled.

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If you take 9.7% of the current cap, you get 6.8 million. All the sudden Asik's contract looks reasonable.

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It's not that the deal is unreasonable for a starting 5, it's that it's unreasonable for a guy that only plays 17 MPG. Why you commit that many years to not one guy like that at that position, but 2 5s like that, it is just sort of silly, regardless of $$. It's like Philly continuing to draft best big because VALUE.

You can find 15MPG bigs on better deals every year.

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It's not that the deal is unreasonable for a starting 5, it's that it's unreasonable for a guy that only plays 17 MPG. Why you commit that many years to not one guy like that at that position, but 2 5s like that, it is just sort of silly, regardless of $$. It's like Philly continuing to draft best big because VALUE.

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It isn't unreasonable if you look at things from a big picture standpoint.

Simply thinking, do you view AA or Asik being part of our team in the long run? I don't view AA at least, I can see how Asik can be if he continues to play like this month's Asik for 25MPG.

That 5mil/yr for AA is purely a contract number to even things out in future trade as the cap hikes you need numbers to even out. Those league 2-3mil guys aren't going to cut it. 5mil is the new trading chip